Well that is £2.5 million down on the first page. Maybe if we get this thread to 50 pages we might be able to afford him.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

Both did wonders for us in the short-term...which is why we'd only be looking for a loan this time.

I don't necessarily disagree with the rest of your points. I think we could find the money for their wages if our predicament was dire enough, but I don't get the impression that SP is feeling things are that bad.

God please no. I’m not sure who caused me more despair when taking the pitch for England.. him or Henderson. It’s no surprise they’re both now scratching around for a new club.

Let someone else be suckers..not us.

They are both average at best.

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He could probably do a reasonable to good job for us but his wages would be out of sync with his true ability.

We obviously see different things in players and Southgate is firmly in your camp with this.. I always thought Southgate stuck with him more for mentoring reasons to build his confidence etc rather than form or ability. Odd I know but then again Southgate is odd.

I’d support him if he came to us though.

Edited by XKudu (10 Jan 2024 9.10am)

Agreed. He is good at the press, strong in the tackle, his range of passing is superior to anyone we have in our midfield and listening to quotes from Pep, he's a great character to have in the dressing room as well. He doesn't go to City without having any talent and when fit and playing regularly he's a starter for England.

For all these reasons, he will not be coming to Palace.

To be fair, I think what he's saying is that even tho he joined in January, wasn't MS in the running for player of the season, his performances were that strong?

Likewise, very, very few people could hate CB as much as I do - and the fact the club gave him a years extension - but again, when he first joined us he was our top scorer with (I think) 15 goals. I bet we'd pay £30m for a 15 goal a year striker currently, right?

So, yes, sadly it all went south with the pair of them, but I'm philosophical that without their initial efforts we would have gone down, so there was value there. Regardless the initial point was that they were both quality in the initial, short term.