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View XKudu's Profile XKudu Flag The Midlands, England 31 Jan 24 12.08pm Send a Private Message to XKudu Add XKudu as a friend

I like Mateta but Iím never sure if his long legs are a help or hinderance. Of course, I canít think of a solution other than longer socks perhaps which may confuse defenders.

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 31 Jan 24 12.10pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Agree NEILLO. I'm happy to go with my own view, from a position of complete ignorance, that both our starlets were fine and did what had been agreed beforehand. They indicated to the bench their time was up.

Interestingly, the commentator on the stream I was watching thought Roy's body language said as much and went on to suggest he should put Olise in a big ball of fluffy cotton wool until the next game.

So is either Olise or Eze injured and therefore probably unavailable in the short term? I feel I'm missing something. Didn't Eze spend a long time being attended to on the pitch before coming off? I'm in the dark.

 

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View i_8_clowns's Profile i_8_clowns Flag Dorset 31 Jan 24 12.15pm Send a Private Message to i_8_clowns Add i_8_clowns as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

So is either Olise or Eze injured and therefore probably unavailable in the short term? I feel I'm missing something. Didn't Eze spend a long time being attended to on the pitch before coming off? I'm in the dark.

Both looked fine - Olise certainly did.

To me, it looked like Eze was biding his time while Ozoh was getting ready.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 31 Jan 24 12.27pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Well, anyone pushing for Richards to be our permanent right back must have been given food for thought in the opening seconds last night.

In terms of the defence as a unit, I'm starting to think that having a nervy Henderson behind them as opposed to the calmer and more imposing Johnstone is having an effect.

It's entirely plausible to think that if Olise and Eze had played together more often this season we would have another few more points in the bag which would take us to our spiritual home of mid table.

We still badly miss last seasons version of Doucoure in midfield. I'm looking forward to seeing what Wharton will do to improve that situation.

Over the 90 minutes we caused more of our own problems than Sheffield created. If we had scored the opening goal I think that could have been a two or three goal margin win.

Respect the win. Together with the two new signings, yesterday was a good day and we can go into this weekends game with a lot more positivity than of late.

I pushed for him ahead of Ward but probably not ahead of Clyne who has been okay of late.
Richards has been a utility player this season and moving positions can be annoying.
He was at fault for their first goal but our full backs never stay wide - it must be a (bad) tactic!
I prefer Johnstone and I also suspect that the defence misses Doucoure badly.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 31 Jan 24 12.36pm Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I reckon itís between us, Luton, Everton and Forest for the third relegation spot. We should have enough to stay up, but we must start defending better. Luton have made their home ground a bit of a fortress but they are useless away. Everton may still be deducted more points. Forest are very average. We are by no means out of trouble.

A fair post.
Forest may also get deducted - in fact I would suggest that they will lose 6 points and that Everton - while they may get a few points back this week - will get another 6 as well.
We may be reliant on point deductions to save us.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 31 Jan 24 1.06pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

The seat next to me declared 'we should win this about 6-1 now' after we got back to 1-1. I agreed and thought that was a very reasonable stance to take at the time. .

This sums up my concern with so many posts on here.

How on earth is it ever remotely reasonable to expect a 6-1 win in any game of professional football?!

I mean, how often do they actually happen, ever, in any game, even for Real Madrid, or Man City, or Bayern Munich?!

Yet Palace 'should' manage it!

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 31 Jan 24 1.10pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Well, anyone pushing for Richards to be our permanent right back must have been given food for thought in the opening seconds last night.

Which has been a great many people on here, very often.

Not that I expect anyone to contemplate whether they were wrong and Roy was right. Instead, it is Roys fault we conceded early.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Jan 24 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

The poor defensive displays coincide with Doucoure being injured and not playing. Itís no coincidence that without his defensive shield we get exposed, Lerma just as good.

Roy can only play, who he has available, without key players we struggle, as most teams below 8th do.

Well, thatís a fair enough comment on Doucoure, but what about the two £40m/£50m central defenders that weíve got and the young full back who a season or so ago was picked for England and being courted by some of the top teams. You would have thought they would have been capable of shoring up our defence, as they are our defence!

I also understand about struggling to top six teams but not sure why one defensive midfielder out should make us do poor defensively. That is effectively saying that Hughes, Ozoh, Riedewald Richards and Lerma arenít up to the job. If thatís what you think then fair enough but I think our defenders are playing poorly and look like they have no confidence. That may stem from tactics or the goalkeeper behind them.

 

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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 31 Jan 24 1.30pm Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by Gribbo

And Edouard, who has no pace and does nothing on his own up front.


Did well when he came on.

Still our top scorer of the season.

Some people in here like to make out Doucoure is some wonder player he is not.

Last night was another example of Roy being the issue not the players.

Players out of position and changes to go even more defensive.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 31 Jan 24 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

This sums up my concern with so many posts on here.

How on earth is it ever remotely reasonable to expect a 6-1 win in any game of professional football?!

I mean, how often do they actually happen, ever, in any game, even for Real Madrid, or Man City, or Bayern Munich?!

Yet Palace 'should' manage it!

You must surely realise that was a figure of speech to indicate how much we were in control going forward?

Itís when we started trying to defend it all went pear shaped.

Edited by Eaglecoops (31 Jan 2024 1.31pm)

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 31 Jan 24 1.31pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

....well to an extent it was Roy's fault as he selected Richards at right back when Clyne has been in reasonable form and had done nothing to warrant being left out.
Similarly, he's played Richards in central midfield where he's like a fish out of water.
He's played Schlupp on the right or left wing where he looks uncomfortable.
He's played Hughes in advanced midfield where his lack of pace and ability to break forward is exposed.
It's not that complicated - play players in their correct positions.

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Which has been a great many people on here, very often.

Not that I expect anyone to contemplate whether they were wrong and Roy was right. Instead, it is Roys fault we conceded early.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 31 Jan 24 1.32pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by i_8_clowns

Both looked fine - Olise certainly did.

To me, it looked like Eze was biding his time while Ozoh was getting ready.

BBC reports says:

[Roy] was able to name Olise and Eze in his team for just the seventh time this season due to injury and their quality shone through.

However, both Olise and Eze had to go off after receiving treatment, but the latter said both players were fine.

"I'm OK, it was just a precaution, it should be fine," Eze said. "[Michael Olise] is also fine. He's good."

 

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