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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Feb 24 12.49am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The issues have all been pointed out in various posts.

Decision making at board level in wrong hands.

The Moby Dick main stand has become an obsession for SP who is also desperate to get in front of the cameras.

Nothing we as supporters can do.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 04 Feb 24 1.19am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

There isnít a straightforward answer to this.

There is a lot on and off the field that doesnít feel right.

But really thatís all we have - perception. We donít know the detail of what really goes on within the ownership.

We have two passive investors that seem content to have Parish run the club. The other investor appears to be at loggerheads with the others and who himself doesnít inspire confidence when you look at the other clubs heís involved with.

So you could lay all responsibility at Steve Parishís door as being the one that ultimately calls the shots.

Where I think he has it wrong is that he has left the club in a limbo state when re-appointing Hodgson for another season. How was that a forward move ?

For a club with little money , the club found around £60m in the last two transfer windows. But we fall between two possible strategies ; building a team around our major playing assets or sell one to improve the strength and depth of the squad.

I think we are heading towards the latter, but for the moment we arenít doing either.

I commend Steve Parish for what he has achieved since 2010. But I think heís going through a period where his decision making is questionable. I think heís hanging around to oversee the new stand completed and his 60th birthday before he looks for the exit.

For now though heís taken a gamble on just getting through this season. That may come back to bite him

You've saved me writing a very long post and therefore others being subjected to my long winded rambling NEILLO, I completely agree.

With no evidence asides from seeing the situation pan out as it has, I was very much of the opinion Parish thought keeping Roy was the equivalent of 'securing another season' whilst he builds a stand as his monument.

Unfortunately, this is football and it does not always pan out as such. Perhaps I've missed a trick in not holding as much resentment toward Parish as others seem to, and I'm not suggesting I have any let alone all the answers, however I am witnessing this apparent strategy faltering big time.

Football atrocious and ineffective, we're on course for relegation, players unhappy, fans incandescent, manager without answers and perhaps justifiably facing extreme hostility. Something has to change. If Parish does nothing, that will be his legacy and will almost nullify anything preceding it.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Far away fan's Profile Far away fan Flag On the border of jungle 04 Feb 24 3.32am Send a Private Message to Far away fan Add Far away fan as a friend

Parish is woke to frightened to run them down to there face, no heart in a lot off the players, if a chairman like Noades the players would be worried with a rubbish performance like that, over played wan - ker s

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 04 Feb 24 6.26am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Whatever problem in the club, the simple solution now to avoid relegation? Change of manager, that is the only thing what we can do really.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 04 Feb 24 7.08am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by CpfcWeTrust1

I'm of the opinion that DF and the board expected Roy to bother trying out Franca and didn't expect Roy to yet again stick with the same group every season.

Same goes with Ahemada.

I read an article a few months ago about the process used in transfers and once fees and wages etc have been agreed the final process is for the player to discuss with the manager how he would fit in and what his expectations were.

It seems to me that the final part is what is missing and Roy Hodgson introduces himself when the player arrives at the club

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Flag 04 Feb 24 7.26am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

Exactly how I saw it too -

Originally posted by Nicholas91

You've saved me writing a very long post and therefore others being subjected to my long winded rambling NEILLO, I completely agree.

With no evidence asides from seeing the situation pan out as it has, I was very much of the opinion Parish thought keeping Roy was the equivalent of 'securing another season' whilst he builds a stand as his monument.

Unfortunately, this is football and it does not always pan out as such. Perhaps I've missed a trick in not holding as much resentment toward Parish as others seem to, and I'm not suggesting I have any let alone all the answers, however I am witnessing this apparent strategy faltering big time.

Football atrocious and ineffective, we're on course for relegation, players unhappy, fans incandescent, manager without answers and perhaps justifiably facing extreme hostility. Something has to change. If Parish does nothing, that will be his legacy and will almost nullify anything preceding it.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 04 Feb 24 8.05am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

We are totally disjointed from chief executive (Parish) down through the board (the owners) through to management, strategy, academy, players, fans and direction.
We are in need of one big overhaul. Problem is, I dont see it coming ......yet.
If we dont take drastic action at management level imminently I fear we will slide down.
How come nearly everyone on here is seeing it, but nothing is being done.

 

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View WJK1960's Profile WJK1960 Flag 04 Feb 24 8.32am Send a Private Message to WJK1960 Add WJK1960 as a friend

I was at the game yesterday and yes we were poor, but I do think there is a danger of a gross overreaction to an absolutely horrendous injury situation.

Yes we could do better defending at and scoring from corners, and yes I wish Roy would play Franca more often, but these are marginal issues compared with not having 3 of our best 5 players regularly available since the start of the season. And with Wilf going, arguably 4 out of our 6 best players from last season are not available on a consistent basis this season. I would suggest any mid table team would struggle in those circumstances and why we end up putting out the midfield we did yesterday.

Turning on the players looks terrible and is not going to help. And I can't see how the owners can be held responsible for the
injury situation. We do really need to come together.

 

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View fish mitten's Profile fish mitten Flag Chelmsford 04 Feb 24 9.02am Send a Private Message to fish mitten Add fish mitten as a friend

The owners are not responsible for the injury situation, but they are responsible for not considering it might happen and having a balanced squad. Was the £40million or so spent in the summer, mainly on Henderson and Franca, the best use of that money?

They have deemed getting a left wing forward in to replace Wilf as something weíll do if we can. Our recruitment policy has not seen the best value for money spent.

It isnít easy, but I wish they would issue a statement saying how they have made mistakes, they are behind Roy (or sack him) and try to galvanise the situation.

But itís just silence and the toxicity will continue.


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I was at the game yesterday and yes we were poor, but I do think there is a danger of a gross overreaction to an absolutely horrendous injury situation.

Yes we could do better defending at and scoring from corners, and yes I wish Roy would play Franca more often, but these are marginal issues compared with not having 3 of our best 5 players regularly available since the start of the season. And with Wilf going, arguably 4 out of our 6 best players from last season are not available on a consistent basis this season. I would suggest any mid table team would struggle in those circumstances and why we end up putting out the midfield we did yesterday.

Turning on the players looks terrible and is not going to help. And I can't see how the owners can be held responsible for the
injury situation. We do really need to come together.

 

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 04 Feb 24 9.49am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

The problem is the Ridiculous position have got themselves into over voting rights, 4 holders with 25% voting rights, so 3 have to agree to get anything done, 2 each its stalemate, farcical, and the blame lays squarely with Textor for allowing Parish to call the tune, it should be as shares held, Textor 45%, Blitzer and Harris 16% each and Parish with his 10%, Roberto Franca 5% and 4% held by small investors, until that is sorted the Status Quo will continue, with nobody able to make a decision.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Feb 24 10.37am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

The problem is the Ridiculous position have got themselves into over voting rights, 4 holders with 25% voting rights, so 3 have to agree to get anything done, 2 each its stalemate, farcical, and the blame lays squarely with Textor for allowing Parish to call the tune, it should be as shares held, Textor 45%, Blitzer and Harris 16% each and Parish with his 10%, Roberto Franca 5% and 4% held by small investors, until that is sorted the Status Quo will continue, with nobody able to make a decision.

Not having a harmonised Board is where the problems start and then filter down through the club.

However, I have no confidence in Textor being the one calling the shots.

I think Parish has done a really good job overall, but recently I see signs of someone who has been in their job too long.

 


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View CpfcWeTrust1's Profile CpfcWeTrust1 Flag 04 Feb 24 10.47am Send a Private Message to CpfcWeTrust1 Add CpfcWeTrust1 as a friend

Surely the easiest and first thing every fan should be doing, is getting behind the team. They don't have to support Roy but if anything could be clearer, the team needs the fans to push them on. Frankly the morale is probably shot to pieces, confidence is at an all time low, the players probably are questioning why they are at the club, they have Roy managing his defensive but leaking goal tacticsand imagine being one of the young players when fans are shouting and swearing at you. It seems like a s***show for them just as much as the fans.

If one thing I learnt from Everton last season, getting behind the team and making their stadium a hard place to go, kept them up last season.

If we cling on in this league then we will rest easy that Roy will be gone, injuries will subside, on the whole... the squad looks great if there's no injuries and with a different manager, it could be quite exciting.

Edited by CpfcWeTrust1 (04 Feb 2024 10.48am)

 

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