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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 26 Feb 24 10.04pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

If we're going to play with three CBs going forward, then we'll need 5/6 in the squad.

Anderson - Guehi - Richards first choice

Tomkins - Holding - Ward in reserve.

Given that you'd expect a couple of them to leave in the summer, reckon we'll be in for more in the transfer window. Lloyd Kelly on a free would be Ideal. Pity we let O'Brien go so cheap.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 27 Feb 24 9.24am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Ward has done superbly and also provided some overlaps.

But if we want a core back three and wingbacks, then Richards edges out Ward. He's a great guy to have though for all the reasons given. I also think he'll find distribution easier in that position.

 


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View leejaneagles's Profile leejaneagles Flag 27 Feb 24 9.42am Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

It'll be nice if nothing more than a mini-renaissance for him for the rest of the season.

He knows he's on his way out, as is common for a 34 year old in the Premier League but after being such a good servant, unceremoneously dropping him and saying "no more game time unless Munoz and Clyne get injured" isn't the best way to treat him (though fine and necessary if we were sticking with a back 4).

I like that now, fans don't have to get on his back and groan because he won't run forward, won't cross the ball and isn't fast enough to get back.

He could well enjoy a few months of being lauded for winning aerial duels, hard tackling and then laying it off to Andersen or Munoz to do the forward passing.

I just feel like this is a perfect way to end his career where he is often under-rated and blamed for things that are out of his control whereas he should really be looked at in a similar light to Speroni or Jedinak.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 27 Feb 24 9.55am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Good post.
One of my all time favourite players for Palace and he can still do a decent job for the team.

Originally posted by leejaneagles

It'll be nice if nothing more than a mini-renaissance for him for the rest of the season.

He knows he's on his way out, as is common for a 34 year old in the Premier League but after being such a good servant, unceremoneously dropping him and saying "no more game time unless Munoz and Clyne get injured" isn't the best way to treat him (though fine and necessary if we were sticking with a back 4).

I like that now, fans don't have to get on his back and groan because he won't run forward, won't cross the ball and isn't fast enough to get back.

He could well enjoy a few months of being lauded for winning aerial duels, hard tackling and then laying it off to Andersen or Munoz to do the forward passing.

I just feel like this is a perfect way to end his career where he is often under-rated and blamed for things that are out of his control whereas he should really be looked at in a similar light to Speroni or Jedinak.

 

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View Oddball2021's Profile Oddball2021 Flag Adelaide 27 Feb 24 9.57am Send a Private Message to Oddball2021 Add Oddball2021 as a friend

That's why he must get picked, for his defensive nouse in the 6 yard box. It's the only part of his game I like. He's like having another goalie. I like this set up as it now we have a bigger squad, with the likes of Tomkins and Holding to bolster the back 3. It takes pressure off the wingers having to be defenders as well all the time and getting themselves hamstrung every second flipping match (HODGSON!!! GRRRR!!!). This makes better sense (going off topic sorry), but now Wardy actually has a reason to be on the pitch. Yes I think he'll be okay in the centre.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Feb 24 10.14am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Ward lacked the attacking instinct and pace you might desire from a RB and may well need in the modern game. He's also probably not quite the presence you need from a CB. I've longed for a new RB for quite some time but as things would have it, I think the 'RCB' role is perfect for Joel, regardless of his age, and the flying wing back looks to be the perfect fit for Munoz.

All fit, I'd suggest a combination of Guehi, Andersen, Ward and Richards with Tomkins and Holding if absolutely necessary looks quite promising at the back. Munoz is perfect for the RWB (and Clyne can probably do a job there) and whilst the jury is out on Mitchell, all round it inspires a lot more faith from me.

 


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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Feb 24 10.15am Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

If we're going to play with three CBs going forward, then we'll need 5/6 in the squad.

Anderson - Guehi - Richards first choice

Tomkins - Holding - Ward in reserve.

Given that you'd expect a couple of them to leave in the summer, reckon we'll be in for more in the transfer window. Lloyd Kelly on a free would be Ideal. Pity we let O'Brien go so cheap.

We do still have Killian Phillips who is on loan up at Aberdeen under the 'watchful' eye of Colin

 


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View Skip's Profile Skip Flag 27 Feb 24 10.16am Send a Private Message to Skip Add Skip as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

There was a Ward diving header a few years ago which proved to be the winner v Chelsea at Stamford Bridge.
A real collector’s item.

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I agree, although not as collectable as the match ball that he actually scored the diving header with. I have that very ball and hope one day I can get Joel to sign it.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Feb 24 10.46am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Ward was such a stellar signing by us back when we were struggling.....We made so many brilliant signings, Delaney, Jedinak, Phillips.

It's a remarkable story, rags to riches...quite incredible really.

 


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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 27 Feb 24 10.51am Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

You are right and the people behind it were Freedman and Parish; the same two who come in for so much criticism. Thank goodness they ignore all the "noise" and just get on with the job. They will be incredibly hard to replace at some time down the road.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 27 Feb 24 10.55am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

The right CB position certainly plays more to his strengths than a modern full back.

And given our defensive fragilities, someone who will put their body on the line, and be a bit vocal has been really useful.

However, he's not a great passer and is on his last legs. I'd 100% give him another years contract, but also looking to be bringing in a younger model. Ronnie Edwards would get my vote.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Feb 24 10.59am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

We do still have Killian Phillips who is on loan up at Aberdeen under the 'watchful' eye of Colin


Yes - but how is this relevant to our CB situation? Phillips is a midfielder and one who has tended to play in an advanced role in his outings in League 1 and the Scottish Prem (although since Warnock has gone there he's hardly had any minutes at Aberdeen).

 

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