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Originally posted by nickgusset

Most people who have made their mind up have got their fingers in their ears and shouting lalalalala

Yeah, because the reason we want to leave the EU is Turkey.

Turkey is very much an after thought.

If Britain votes remain...it's likely to be by a tiny margin and I view it as highly likely that the chance to vote again won't be given for generations to come.

Those in privileged positions don't like the idea of the working class plebs disturbing their lifestyles on the march to ever increasing globalization and internationalism.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 8.29am

Give parliament it's due, there were some touching tributes yesterday.

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 21 Jun 16 9.14am

The pro BREXIT express has a great story this morning.

German nudists told to cover up as asylum seekers home opens near skinny-dipping lake

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VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 21 Jun 16 9.19am

You'll love this one:

Dad flying England flags on his car branded 'racist' in anonymous note in Asda car park

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VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 9.21am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

The pro BREXIT express has a great story this morning.

German nudists told to cover up as asylum seekers home opens near skinny-dipping lake

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I'm waiting for 'brexit will cure alzheimers ' from the Express

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Jun 16 10.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, because the reason we want to leave the EU is Turkey.

Turkey is very much an after thought.

If Britain votes remain...it's likely to be by a tiny margin and I view it as highly likely that the chance to vote again won't be given for generations to come.

Those in privileged positions don't like the idea of the working class plebs disturbing their lifestyles on the march to ever increasing globalization and internationalism.

My concern, looking at both the Remain and Leave is that both seem to be directed and representative of privileged positions. A lot of the right wing corporate leave supporters are likely to relish to capacity to utilise the leave towards engineering their own gain - especially in regards to employment laws and oversight, and the capacity of their representatives in power having greater capacity to control social policy in their favour.

The problem we have is that we have a decision about staying or leaving, but not real influence over how those will be implemented. Don't expect any of the parties to actually mess with the corporate status quo, except in their favour.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 21 Jun 16 10.12am

Oddly the leave campaign has done more to persuade me towards a stay vote, than the remain campaign, which I find alienating and patronising.

One the one hand, I am pro-leave, but don't like the covert and overt propaganda, that includes thinly veiled nationalistic nonsense, and popularist falsehoods. On the other hand I don't like the remains covert and overt propaganda that includes thinly veiled threats and popularist falsehoods.

I want to see political parties that actually present arguments about what they would do with a leave vote.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Jun 16 11.09am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Oddly the leave campaign has done more to persuade me towards a stay vote, than the remain campaign, which I find alienating and patronising.

One the one hand, I am pro-leave, but don't like the covert and overt propaganda, that includes thinly veiled nationalistic nonsense, and popularist falsehoods. On the other hand I don't like the remains covert and overt propaganda that includes thinly veiled threats and popularist falsehoods.

I want to see political parties that actually present arguments about what they would do with a leave vote.

One has to accept that during a campaign, the competing sides are appealing to all levels of intellect, education,each gender,different culture etc, There will be mixed messages and shameless propaganda et al at different times. Even we on these boards repeat a simple mantra knowing full well that the bigger picture is far more complex.
Complex don't cut it when you are trying to win hearts and minds ...and votes.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 11.17am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Oddly the leave campaign has done more to persuade me towards a stay vote, than the remain campaign, which I find alienating and patronising.

One the one hand, I am pro-leave, but don't like the covert and overt propaganda, that includes thinly veiled nationalistic nonsense, and popularist falsehoods. On the other hand I don't like the remains covert and overt propaganda that includes thinly veiled threats and popularist falsehoods.

I want to see political parties that actually present arguments about what they would do with a leave vote.


Agree. At the start I was around 70 % for voting leave. Now it's fifty fifty. The leave campaign is so full of half truths, lies and misinformation that I'm even less inclined to support such scallywags.
Of course remainers ate bad too. But not quiet as much

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Jun 16 11.19am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Agree. At the start I was around 70 % for voting leave. Now it's fifty fifty. The leave campaign is so full of half truths, lies and misinformation that I'm even less inclined to support such scallywags.
Of course remainers ate bad too. But not quiet as much

You were never voting leave.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 16 11.20am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You were never voting leave.

Why would I lie?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 21 Jun 16 11.24am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Why would I lie?

So you can make a grandiose display of declaring the remain argument the most convincing right at the end perhaps?

Shameless playing to the crowd.

 

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