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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Oct 16 10.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Given that, your statement was even more unreasonable. Anyway isn't this a Pink Floyd thread? I think your taking yourself a tad too seriously and over analyzing? Its Music you either like or you don't.
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 02 Oct 16 10.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Anyway isn't this a Pink Floyd thread? I think your taking yourself a tad too seriously and over analyzing? Its Music you either like or you don't. Indeed. But.... Pink floyd were part of the progressive rock scene, which was pretentious. They had hardly any singles in the charts, especially after Syd Barrett went mad. So at the peak of their excellence, the likes of Jonny Rotten (wearing an "I Hate Pink Floyd" t-shirt), and Dave Vanian (The Damned produced the definitive "punk" guitar riff to attention), brought to the *yoot* a music they could relate to. Even if that was also pretentious. No analysing required. They both served a purpose. One musical, the other accessible. I personally like both types of music. My tuppence. P.S. "Live in Pompeii" is all you need to decide if you like Floyd or not. Elements of Barrett, Waters, Gilmore,... all of them really.
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mooro Within the Temples of Syrinx 02 Oct 16 11.42pm | |
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Animals is a very under rated album in my opinion, more famous probably for the iconic flying pig over Battersea Power station.........
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Thegamesafoot Somewhere but Nowhere 03 Oct 16 12.20am | |
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There is a time and place where time and place have meaning. Early Floyd had it. Though my Floyd is Obscured By Clouds, Meddle and Dark Side.
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thebob Tatebayashi (from Croydon) 03 Oct 16 12.46am | |
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Originally posted by mooro
Animals is a very under rated album in my opinion, more famous probably for the iconic flying pig over Battersea Power station......... Agreed. Listen to Dogs.
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bexleydave Barnehurst 03 Oct 16 5.07am | |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
Pink floyd were part of the progressive rock scene, which was pretentious. They had hardly any singles in the charts, If you are judging PF's success by chart singles you've completely missed the point; it's the 250m albums, and still selling at a million a year, that counts.
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Midlands Eagle 03 Oct 16 8.17am | |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
Dark Side of the Moon was in the US album charts solidly for fifteen years helped by millions of people buying it on vinyl, cassette, CD and in my case my one and only SACD
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legaleagle 03 Oct 16 9.47am | |
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Its 1971 and Pink Floyd are headlining at Crystal Palace park with the Faces supporting. My friend and ,young just teenage kids,crawl under various bits of wire and we are then backstage.... Contrast and compare: The Faces (especially Rod) share their bottles of wine with us and vouch for us as being with them when security for some reason doubt we should legitimately be there Pink Floyd make us pay to be able to have a jazz cigarette... Quiz question:which group were cnuts?
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 16 9.56am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And punk isn't pretentious? lol. It was totally manufactured. Two words. Jimmy Pursey. It was pinched from American bands like the New York Doll and The Dictators and then Anglicised by the likes of Malcolm Maclaren, It was then made a fashion statement by Vivian Westwood. Technically it was a production of Situationism, rather than fabricated per se. Whilst the Sex Pistols were very much a crafty creation, it did fit more with the ideology of Situationalism rather than commericalisation of a product (and both Maclaren and Westwood were very influenced by Debourd and the Situationalists). The best example of this, is the mythology of the Manchester Music scene / Factory records and the Manchester Free Trade gig - The idea of the Sex Pistols really is that it 'triggered punk' rather than was Punk rock, by creating the impact or situation that creates social change. In terms of manufactured - certainly a lot of the Sex Pistols is an exercise in creation, but their impact on the music scene is what counts - and it was anything but a manufactured music genre.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Oct 16 10.03am | |
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I don't really like Pink Floyd, they're far to prog rock for my liking, but oddly I do really like some of their tracks, but listening to whole albums I find horribly dull. They're great musicians, and I absolutely love psychedelic rock/music, but not the Floyd. Individually I couldn't pick out a track that I've heard that was s**t. Collectively it just blends to much for me.... But I think its more a me thing, rather than them. Even if they were 'Dad Rock' by the time I was 18
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gbox82 Meols, Wirral 03 Oct 16 10.19am | |
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Originally posted by thebob
Agreed. Listen to Dogs. Amazing track, 17 minutes of perfect prog rock that gets harder and darker throughout building towards an incredible ending. The four albums - Dark Side, Wish you Were Here, Animals and The Wall - are all absolute masterpieces in my opinion, and whilst their other work has merit I don't think it ever reaches these heights. Any doubters out there - forget your preconceptions and prejudices and listen to Dark Side (turned up loud so you can hear all the different parts). By the third listen you will be hooked. As an aside, if you want to see a great live show then check out Australian Pink Floyd. I'm too young to have ever seen the original PF, but these boys are amazing at recreating the sound. Particularly vocally which is often where tribute bands fall down.
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Oct 16 12.45pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Technically it was a production of Situationism, rather than fabricated per se. Whilst the Sex Pistols were very much a crafty creation, it did fit more with the ideology of Situationalism rather than commericalisation of a product (and both Maclaren and Westwood were very influenced by Debourd and the Situationalists). The best example of this, is the mythology of the Manchester Music scene / Factory records and the Manchester Free Trade gig - The idea of the Sex Pistols really is that it 'triggered punk' rather than was Punk rock, by creating the impact or situation that creates social change. In terms of manufactured - certainly a lot of the Sex Pistols is an exercise in creation, but their impact on the music scene is what counts - and it was anything but a manufactured music genre.
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