Not sure I believe that the backstop is the only problem with Parliament voting through May's deal.

But a plan is basically something that recognises the mutual incompatibility of leaving the UK whilst maintaining an open border with the EU because of the gfa.

A solution should have been found before the referendum was called or article 50 invoked. Otherwise we're committed to achieving the impossible.

A successful Brexit
Should already be clear this isn't going to happen.

Dystopian
That's subjective.

Longshot, i.e. not going to happen
Why waste energy on it then. There are so many more things you could be doing with your time, like, for example, enjoying life or focusing on contributing to a cause that you might actually be able to influence. I just don't see the logic in trying to change something that you're already aware isn't going to change. It's like raging at a dead bird for not being able to fly. We've all got better things to do that might actually be of value to society.

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Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

So we shouldn't leave because those nasty self serving EU people are going to make it tough for us.

Have you no backbone Nick Junior?

Personally, I've never been more keen to leave.

Completely agree. Said as much on here a few weeks ago.

It is inevitable, and therefore I'd rather not waste my time working against it. I'd rather work with it and prepare for it, get ahead if you will. That will be far more beneficial than getting any temporary, misguided sense of satisfaction or 'at least I did my bit' from throwing an acorn at a charging elephant and subsequently being trampled.

Again, on this specific topic, I just don't see the logic in trying to change something you have no control over. Your energy would be much better spent elsewhere. I do see the logic if you've become indoctrinated into thinking you can actually make a difference. Or if you are successfully attempting to create an organised, coherent global movement/revolt against the system.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

When France and Germany broke post-war bread with the aim of restoring sustainable peace, we were rightly supportive of this partnership.

But it has morphed in an all consuming, bullying, anti-democratic monstrosity.

Even the disgraced, pro-EU sycophant Tony Blair admitted in 2014 that:

'The EU is no longer about peace, it is about power'.

We must take this opportunity to leave now.