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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Feb 19 10.38am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I had surmised that

I shall therefore assume everyone agrees that pending further evidence this lady's parents are in no way implicated in her recent actions

When a paper does pay for her return this will be such a fascinating story. Of the car crash variety. Got to be much to learn.

I suspect that it is. In the same way that this person is a Muslim because their parents are Muslims. Proving that however would be rather difficult.

People think that there is this huge dividing line between mainstream Islam and radical Islam when the reality is we are just talking about branches from the same source.

Now a peaceful person has the right to live in peace regardless of what they believe but this is a completely imported problem.....A 's***e sandwich' given to us by neo liberals and the left.

The countries in Eastern Europe who are refusing to import this problem are saving their nations in the long term.....Even if that means that eventually that means they come into forms of conflict with these ones.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Feb 2019 10.42am)

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Feb 19 10.57am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are being disingenuous as ever.

If you don't think she should be allowed back then just say so in plain language instead of playing Saint Maple.

I'm sure all those murdering b******s would be very good at begging for mercy if they were captured alive.

OK, just because you ask so nicely

I think this cancer needs to be cut out at the roots. We need to find those that convinced a schoolgirl to join a war. So yes, probably I would bring her back to debrief her. I would then allow those that took schoolgirls to the airport and put them on a plane to 'mysteriously disappear'.

I don't know what I would do with Ms Begum, rather depends if she became a poster girl for teaching people how wicked this was or has no remorse on a continuing basis.

It's not my call though and I have already said very clever people will be dealing with this far better than you or I could.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Feb 19 10.58am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I suspect that it is. In the same way that this person is a Muslim because their parents are Muslims. Proving that however would be rather difficult.

People think that there is this huge dividing line between mainstream Islam and radical Islam when the reality is we are just talking about branches from the same source.

Now a peaceful person has the right to live in peace regardless of what they believe but this is a completely imported problem.....A 's***e sandwich' given to us by neo liberals and the left.

The countries in Eastern Europe who are refusing to import this problem are saving their nations in the long term.....Even if that means that eventually that means they come into forms of conflict with these ones.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Feb 2019 10.42am)

Of course, all Muslims are bad Muslims and they all have to be controlled before inevitably they start killing people.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Feb 19 11.07am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Of course, all Muslims are bad Muslims and they all have to be controlled before inevitably they start killing people.


No, that's not what I said.

This 'all' comes from you.

Let's try and explain something to you that I think you know already but are willing to lie about.

If we started importing Germans into the UK in 1937 and we continued doing it for a long time. At some point you would have a lot of Germans and a percent of them would be Nazis because that's a factor of what Germany was in 1937.....A far far higher number than any internal number of them here.

Not 'all'.....God....still having to explain that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Feb 2019 11.16am)

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Feb 19 11.07am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

BBC Headline today

Shamima Begum: Lawyer says IS teenager 'damaged' by ordeal

body of the text states:-

"Her family will always want to bring their child home and bring her to safety, and particularly the innocent grandchild that now is in existence," said Mr Akunjee.

"The family fully expect her to be quite damaged and so they would want an assessment around Shamima, and also as much help around her mental health and recalibration effectively into normal thinking as possible.

Interesting interpretation by the BBC of what was actually said, especially on a day when fake news is being discussed at length

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Feb 19 11.10am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

OK, just because you ask so nicely

I think this cancer needs to be cut out at the roots.
We need to find those that convinced a schoolgirl to join a war. So yes, probably I would bring her back to debrief her. I would then allow those that took schoolgirls to the airport and put them on a plane to 'mysteriously disappear'.

That's a completely deluded attitude.

You can't.

Your responses remind me of Ben Affleck talking to Sam Harris.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Feb 2019 11.14am)

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Feb 19 11.11am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

BBC Headline today

Shamima Begum: Lawyer says IS teenager 'damaged' by ordeal

body of the text states:-

"Her family will always want to bring their child home and bring her to safety, and particularly the innocent grandchild that now is in existence," said Mr Akunjee.

"The family fully expect her to be quite damaged and so they would want an assessment around Shamima, and also as much help around her mental health and recalibration effectively into normal thinking as possible.

Interesting interpretation by the BBC of what was actually said, especially on a day when fake news is being discussed at length

Is this not what the lawyer said then?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Feb 19 11.13am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

The narrative is about this young innocent girl who was groomed and that she was only 15 and didn't really understand what she was getting in to.She claims she was just a silly 15 year-old.She was old enough to be fully aware that terrorists killed more than 50 people on the Underground and bus in the abhorrent 7/7 terrorist attacks.

Since she has been in Syria with ISIS there has been the Manchester bombing and the killings on Westminster Bridge and in Borough Market.She has shown NO remorse at all and as for being portrayed as being a 'Victim',the real victims are all those killed and injured and their poor grieving families.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Feb 19 11.15am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Is this not what the lawyer said then?

No.

There is a huge difference between "the family expect her to be damaged" and "she is damaged"

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Feb 19 11.16am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

OK, just because you ask so nicely

I think this cancer needs to be cut out at the roots. We need to find those that convinced a schoolgirl to join a war. So yes, probably I would bring her back to debrief her. I would then allow those that took schoolgirls to the airport and put them on a plane to 'mysteriously disappear'.

I don't know what I would do with Ms Begum, rather depends if she became a poster girl for teaching people how wicked this was or has no remorse on a continuing basis.

It's not my call though and I have already said very clever people will be dealing with this far better than you or I could.

That didn't hurt did it.

Judging by her attitude I doubt that she was dragged kicking and screaming to the airport.

Ultimately everyone can blame someone else for who they are and what they have done. All people involved in terrorism need to be dealt with in a manner that is best suited to protecting the security of this country and there is no room for bleeding hearts.

We have created this problem by allowing people to settle here who would potentially sympathise with our enemies. It was totally predictable and therefore staggeringly short sighted or deliberate, depending on how cynical you are.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Feb 19 11.21am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle


No.

There is a huge difference between "the family expect her to be damaged" and "she is damaged"

Those that were/are damaged are all those innocent victims who perished at the hands of a murderous cult that the lady has been part of and of course their grieving families and friends.

Edited by Willo (18 Feb 2019 11.28am)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Feb 19 11.23am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Will the BBC give her a job as a panelist on a comedy politics talk show ?

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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