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 DanH  SW2 09 Jun 21 12.02am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
You’re right in that there’s no special sort of abuse. However, some is certainly more pervasive than others, and therefore garners more attention. Semantics but ultimately explanatory. Now if you feel that racist abuse is far less culturally pervasive than other types of abuse and therefore gets focused on far too much and unfairly so, sure, go ahead and make that case I slightly disagree. Abuse for stuff you can’t help (race, ethnicity, physical features etc) is definitely worse than abuse for stuff you can help (i.e. abusing someone else for any of the previously mentioned).
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| DanH SW2 09 Jun 21 12.03am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'm not as mentally strong as some. I'm just as vulnerable as the next man. There is no special form of abuse. Racial abuse is no different to any other. Where is this racism? Try listening to some of the people taking a stand where this racism is.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jun 21 12.09am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
You’re right in that there’s no special sort of abuse. However, some is certainly more pervasive than others, and therefore garners more attention. Semantics but ultimately explanatory. Now if you feel that racist abuse is far less culturally pervasive than other types of abuse and therefore gets focused on far too much and unfairly so, sure, go ahead and make that case Abuse is abuse. Some have a culture of abusing others for any reason they can muster. I don't know precisely why people feel the need to do so, but I assume it must be their own insecurity.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 09 Jun 21 12.10am |
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Originally posted by DanH
No, because I’m a white male. And I’m self-aware enough to know that I’m very lucky not to have to deal with that sh*t. But I’ve been around enough people who aren’t straight white males to see the amount of sh*t they have to put up with. And you know what? That seems an awful lot more tiring and worthy of getting fed up about than having ‘race issues’ shoved in your face all the time. My son was racially abused at school when he was young. In the end I put him to a private school which cost me 30k pa.
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| Stirlingsays Online 09 Jun 21 12.12am |
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Originally posted by DanH
I slightly disagree. Abuse for stuff you can’t help (race, ethnicity, physical features etc) is definitely worse than abuse for stuff you can help (i.e. abusing someone else for any of the previously mentioned). I don't agree, abuse is abuse. If a bullet blows your brains out, it doesn't matter whether it's from your enemy, friendly fire or a ricochet. I can understand why someone might feel differently but for me, ultimately all that matters is whatever the end result is. Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 12.13am)
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| DanH SW2 09 Jun 21 12.14am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I don't agree, abuse is abuse. If a bullet blows your brains out, it doesn't matter whether it's from your enemy, friendly fire or a ricochet. All that matters is whatever the end result is. So a person calling someone a c*nt for racially abusing someone is just as bad as the person who gave the racial abuse?
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| Mapletree Croydon 09 Jun 21 12.15am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
So I take it you don’t hold it against people if they choose to boo then Of course I do.
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| Stirlingsays Online 09 Jun 21 12.15am |
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Originally posted by DanH
No, because I’m a white male. And I’m self-aware enough to know that I’m very lucky not to have to deal with that sh*t. But I’ve been around enough people who aren’t straight white males to see the amount of sh*t they have to put up with. And you know what? That seems an awful lot more tiring and worthy of getting fed up about than having ‘race issues’ shoved in your face all the time. I grew up in Stockwell, there was anti white abuse and violence too. You're well meaning, but you're an idealist who doesn't really know what you're talking about.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jun 21 12.18am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Try listening to some of the people taking a stand where this racism is. Tell me. At what point do you think Black people will be content? How far back in people's phone history will we have to search? How many statuses will we pull down? How much positive discrimination will they need before they are content? Wake up. This never ends.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 09 Jun 21 12.20am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Congratulations. Not everyone is as mentally strong as you. Not everyone can just brush it off and let it make them stronger. Some people get depression. Some people get suicidal. Some people take their own lives. Imagine having to deal with crap constantly just because of the colour of your skin. You haven’t had to deal with that have you? just ask a white person from Johannesburg. How often are they getting abused and murdered ? oh but sorry Dan, wrong square in your box-ticking chart.
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| DanH SW2 09 Jun 21 12.20am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
My son was racially abused at school when he was young. In the end I put him to a private school which cost me 30k pa. That’s awful and really sad you had you do that. The school should have expelled the abusers. I’ve spent 34 years of my life in this country and not received racial abuse once. My best mate who was born here but dad was from the Caribbean has experienced it more times than he can count. We’ve been close mates since 11 and nearly always lived in the same place until I moved out of London. The only difference between me and him is skin colour. Born in the same hospital. Went to the same schools. Into the same pastimes. Yet he has had to put up with it and I haven’t.
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| DanH SW2 09 Jun 21 12.22am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Tell me. At what point do you think Black people will be content? How far back in people's phone history will we have to search? How many statuses will we pull down? How much positive discrimination will they need before they are content? Wake up. This never ends. At least you know you hold the power at the moment as a white man.
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