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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jun 21 12.43am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Some abuse is definitely warranted if it’s calling out sh*tty behaviour (and yes that definition is subjective but surely we all agree leaving monkey and banana emojis is).

I think all that’s changed now is that people aren’t so afraid to call out their abuser. Not just on racial issues, but on things like creepy sexual behaviour, being homophobic and the like. People just used to suffer in silence and the abuser just continued as they like, unchallenged, and often thinking they were doing no wrong because of it. As a society I think we’ve got a lot better at standing up for ourselves in the last few years and not letting the bully boys win.


The victor writes the narrative.....yours is social liberalism/egalitarianism.

You have grown up being taught the narrative. If you had been born in a different era I'm pretty sure you'd be talking that narrative as well.

You'd have made a good Vicar's son.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 12.45am)

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Jun 21 12.44am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Marlon King has a shopping list of misdemeanours to call him a c*nt for. You don’t need to concern yourself with his skin colour.

yes but when i call vicious Marlon a c..nt (which he is), am i being prejudiced ? or will Marlon accuse me of being so ?

do i have more license to call Joey Barton a violent c...nt ?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 21 12.44am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This is where the fear kicks in. You think it won’t stop until us white people are getting chased out of our houses. Whereas really most minorities just want to be treated equally and not have to deal with mindless abuse while they’re trying to go about their daily business.

Let me tell you dear boy that people only want equality until that is achieved, and then they want more. Humans don't settle for equality.


Surely you are not so naive as to believe otherwise.

Right now, Black people are equal by law. They have exactly the opportunities you would expect when you make up 4% of the population. Why they think that they should be entitled to get managerial jobs in football beyond 4%, for example, is beyond me.
No one complains about the disproportionate 25% playing football.

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 09 Jun 21 12.46am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

yes but when i call vicious Marlon a c..nt (which he is), am i being prejudiced ? or will Marlon accuse me of being so ?

do i have more license to call Joey Barton a violent c...nt ?

They’ve both got previous and you’re not doing it based on skin colour so fire away. I think we’re getting somewhere here.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 09 Jun 21 12.48am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Let me tell you dear boy that people only want equality until that is achieved, and then they want more. Humans don't settle for equality.


Surely you are not so naive as to believe otherwise.

Right now, Black people are equal by law. They have exactly the opportunities you would expect when you make up 4% of the population. Why they think that they should be entitled to get managerial jobs in football beyond 4%, for example, is beyond me.
No one complains about the disproportionate 25% playing football.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jun 2021 12.44am)

See this is where we fundamentally disagree and your fears stretch into the irrational (in my opinion). If it all goes to sh*t as you predict at least you can comfort yourself that it’ll be my generation left around to deal with it.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Jun 21 12.49am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


Surely you are not so naive as to believe otherwise.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jun 2021 12.44am)

oh cmon. You must have figured him out by now ?

he believes white people can win all the olympic sprints and black people can win all the olympic swimming.

his delusions know no bounds.

he would open up a jewish football club in downtown Jeddah.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jun 21 12.50am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

If you don’t get why people are there’s no point having this conversation with you. Listen to people that are on the receiving end and see what they say. Not that it will ever happen, people like you never listen. You think you know it all already.

That is rather a pot calling kettle moment.

Most people think they know it all. They don't of course, but naivety does tend to reduce with age for many.

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

oh cmon. You must have figured him out by now ?

he believes white people can win all the olympic sprints and black people can win all the olympic swimming.

his delusions know no bounds.

he would open up a jewish football club in downtown Jeddah.

He means well. He just grew up in an era when he had to apologize for being White.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Jun 21 12.53am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That is rather a pot calling kettle moment.

Most people think they know it all. They don't of course, but naivety does tend to reduce with age for many.

correct. I frown upon homophobia, but i am not stupid enough to open a gay nightclub in the Third World and start to lecture all the locals on the importance of tolerance.

naivety in the extreme.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jun 21 12.57am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Let me tell you dear boy that people only want equality until that is achieved, and then they want more. Humans don't settle for equality.

I think he romanticizes out groups.

You're right, most people, and pretty much all self identifying groups will seek to maximise their advantages. That's a pretty obvious lesson of history.

'Equality'....which is a myth...only comes in the form of regulation

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jun 2021 12.58am)

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He means well. He just grew up in an era when he had to apologize for being White.

Never happened. I’m comfortable with who I am and where I’ve come from. Just self-aware enough to realise that I haven’t had to deal with stuff that other people haven’t. That’s not just because I’m white either. Being male and straight helps too.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

See this is where we fundamentally disagree and your fears stretch into the irrational (in my opinion). If it all goes to sh*t as you predict at least you can comfort yourself that it’ll be my generation left around to deal with it.

I'm not afraid Danny boy. Life gets far more scary than that. You will find out.

 

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