Paul isn't though on the road to Damascus atm and guns didn't exist when he was! So the implied message is perfectly apt.

How many of those 52% really understood the implications? How many were conned into the "grass is greener" messaging that always accompanies political campaigns, and was especially prevalent with Brexit?

No-one knows precisely how many, but with such a small margin it would have been enough to make the difference. Which is why my consistent argument was, and remains, that decisions this important should never be subjected to the winds of chance implicit in a referendum. We elect representatives. We ask them to study and decide. They were overwhelmingly in favour of us remaining a member. We were let down by the Tory Party's desire to kill off UKIP. A failure of leadership that will haunt us for generations to come.

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How many young remain voters were “conned” into thinking there was no life outside the EU?
Seems this thread has been hijacked, perhaps you should continue this debate on post eu thread, although it does seem to be going over old ground

Edited by Spiderman (19 Jul 2021 8.40am)

Yes. The mistake we made was joining the EU in the first place. Of course, it was called the Common Market back then.
I wonder how many more name changes it will have?

I lived in Asia for several years, and spent many months working both in the USA and parts of Europe. So rather more than just holidays. Not an expert, but with enough experience to have an opinion.

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I don't agree with much that Wisbech says but i do agree on this occasion.
We have to be open to change and try things.
The original Common Market or was it the EEC (maybe that was afterwards) seemed to be a good idea with neighbouring Countries trading with ease with each other.
The problem was that Germany - and then France - wanted it to be made all about them - they wanted the power.
Had it stayed as the original idea was then maybe things would not be as they are now.
We will all have different ideas but I liked it then but I wanted us to leave in the because of the ridiculous EU machine.
We always have to try things though

That sounds like something Hitler would have said. How appropriate when talking about the EU.

It's OK until the weakness is you.

Not all change is good. We tried it and didn't like it. It was never a good fit.