Marc Guehi England call-up?

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monkey Made in Bromley 17 Mar 22 8.01pm
Originally posted by Painter We have had 4 players in the same England squad in the past. . Was that Poland away in November 1991? GT, Gray, Salako and Martyn? I was going to say Wrighty, but he left in September, also didn’t we play the US in a friendly around that time and we had a few in there?
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monkey

Made in Bromley 17 Mar 22 8.01pm

Originally posted by Painter

We have had 4 players in the same England squad in the past.

Was that Poland away in November 1991? GT, Gray, Salako and Martyn? I was going to say Wrighty, but he left in September, also didn’t we play the US in a friendly around that time and we had a few in there?

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antipodeagle Wellington 18 Mar 22 5.03am
Originally posted by monkey Was that Poland away in November 1991? GT, Gray, Salako and Martyn? I was going to say Wrighty, but he left in September, also didn’t we play the US in a friendly around that time and we had a few in there? Yep. Pretty disastrous tour of US under Graham Taylor. Salako's performances were a bright spot in a team built around the skills of Carlton Palmer.
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antipodeagle

Wellington 18 Mar 22 5.03am

Originally posted by monkey

Yep. Pretty disastrous tour of US under Graham Taylor. Salako's performances were a bright spot in a team built around the skills of Carlton Palmer.

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thai-eagle chiang mai 18 Mar 22 5.17am
Did not know Guehi was born in Ivory Coast. He might come up with his fellow Ivorian Wilf in the coming friendly then...
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chiang mai 18 Mar 22 5.17am

Did not know Guehi was born in Ivory Coast. He might come up with his fellow Ivorian Wilf in the coming friendly then...

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Elpis In a pub 18 Mar 22 8.02am
Originally posted by Qwijibo So pleased for him, and not surprised. Unfortunate it's a friendly, as I want him declared for England. Only yesterday I was reading up on him, and was surprised by two things, firstly his name is actually Addji Keaninkin Marc-Israel Guéhi, and secondly, he was born in Ivory Coast. Sky Sports suggest Olise was close to a call up, despite his French U21 call up. He's definitely good enough for England, and unlike Guéhi, he was actually born in England. England have always struggled for left-footed players! We need him. Finally, I agree that Mitchell is unlucky. There's not an anti-palace agenda - why would there be? It's not like we're in the Champions League or anything. But I'd be surprised if there are two better left-backs at the moment. Getting Guehi closer to a full cap in a competitive match has a lot to do with it maybe . Southgate has said he did not want to weaken the U21's unnecessarilly them having euro qualifying matches . I havnt seen the u21 squad but would take a punt that Mitchell will be in that . And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 18 Mar 22 8.02am

Originally posted by Qwijibo

So pleased for him, and not surprised. Unfortunate it's a friendly, as I want him declared for England.

Only yesterday I was reading up on him, and was surprised by two things, firstly his name is actually Addji Keaninkin Marc-Israel Guéhi, and secondly, he was born in Ivory Coast.

Sky Sports suggest Olise was close to a call up, despite his French U21 call up. He's definitely good enough for England, and unlike Guéhi, he was actually born in England. England have always struggled for left-footed players! We need him.

Finally, I agree that Mitchell is unlucky. There's not an anti-palace agenda - why would there be? It's not like we're in the Champions League or anything. But I'd be surprised if there are two better left-backs at the moment.

Getting Guehi closer to a full cap in a competitive match has a lot to do with it maybe . Southgate has said he did not want to weaken the U21's unnecessarilly them having euro qualifying matches . I havnt seen the u21 squad but would take a punt that Mitchell will be in that .

And we still need a striker

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monkey Made in Bromley 18 Mar 22 9.18am
Originally posted by antipodeagle Yep. Pretty disastrous tour of US under Graham Taylor. Salako's performances were a bright spot in a team built around the skills of Carlton Palmer. My good yes, Carlton Palmer, what a player he was especially when turnip head played him at left back against Norway, along with several others out of position I know it was a proud time for us with several of our players getting caps, but it was an awful time for the national team
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monkey

Made in Bromley 18 Mar 22 9.18am

Originally posted by antipodeagle

Yep. Pretty disastrous tour of US under Graham Taylor. Salako's performances were a bright spot in a team built around the skills of Carlton Palmer.

My good yes, Carlton Palmer, what a player he was especially when turnip head played him at left back against Norway, along with several others out of position
I know it was a proud time for us with several of our players getting caps, but it was an awful time for the national team

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Badger11 Beckenham 18 Mar 22 9.20am
Originally posted by monkey My good yes, Carlton Palmer, what a player he was especially when turnip head played him at left back against Norway, along with several others out of position I know it was a proud time for us with several of our players getting caps, but it was an awful time for the national team I always felt sorry for CP it wasn't his fault that GT thought he was our star player. He was an honest journeyman mismanaged by his manager. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 18 Mar 22 9.20am

Originally posted by monkey

I always felt sorry for CP it wasn't his fault that GT thought he was our star player. He was an honest journeyman mismanaged by his manager.

One more point

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kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 18 Mar 22 10.38am
Originally posted by Badger11 I always felt sorry for CP it wasn't his fault that GT thought he was our star player. He was an honest journeyman mismanaged by his manager. Yep it was a weird fascination that GT had with Carlton Palmer. That was a strange time for the National team. It was a big change of players going out like Shilton, Butcher, Parker, Waddle, Lineker etc and a new breed coming in.. Taylors time with England was similar to Roy Hodgsons. Not very good but shouldn't be forgotten how good they were domestically. Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!
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Reigate 18 Mar 22 10.38am

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Originally posted by Badger11

I always felt sorry for CP it wasn't his fault that GT thought he was our star player. He was an honest journeyman mismanaged by his manager.

Yep it was a weird fascination that GT had with Carlton Palmer. That was a strange time for the National team. It was a big change of players going out like Shilton, Butcher, Parker, Waddle, Lineker etc and a new breed coming in..

Taylors time with England was similar to Roy Hodgsons. Not very good but shouldn't be forgotten how good they were domestically.

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 22 10.47am
Just been announced by the club that Rak-Sakyi & our new(next season) young striker from Derby, Luke Plange have been called up for the England U20's. This is LP's 1st call-up . . . [Link] I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 18 Mar 22 10.47am

Just been announced by the club that Rak-Sakyi & our new(next season) young striker from Derby, Luke Plange have been called up for the England U20's. This is LP's 1st call-up . . . [Link]

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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monkey Made in Bromley 02 Apr 22 3.02pm
Paul Merson wondering on Sky if Chelsea have a buy back clause on Guehi…….yeah right, as if, they sold him to us thinking that’s handy, off loading a youngster for £18 million, I very much doubt they thought he’d make anywhere near the progress he’s made this season.
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Made in Bromley 02 Apr 22 3.02pm

Paul Merson wondering on Sky if Chelsea have a buy back clause on Guehi…….yeah right, as if, they sold him to us thinking that’s handy, off loading a youngster for £18 million, I very much doubt they thought he’d make anywhere near the progress he’s made this season.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Apr 22 3.51pm
Originally posted by monkey Paul Merson wondering on Sky if Chelsea have a buy back clause on Guehi…….yeah right, as if, they sold him to us thinking that’s handy, off loading a youngster for £18 million, I very much doubt they thought he’d make anywhere near the progress he’s made this season. They have the right to match any offer made to us for him that we want to accept so if Manure etc. offer £50m for Guehi and we decide we'll take the money, Chelsea can come in with a bid for the same amount and get him back.
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doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Apr 22 3.51pm

Originally posted by monkey

They have the right to match any offer made to us for him that we want to accept so if Manure etc. offer £50m for Guehi and we decide we'll take the money, Chelsea can come in with a bid for the same amount and get him back.

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monkey Made in Bromley 02 Apr 22 6.13pm
Originally posted by doombear They have the right to match any offer made to us for him that we want to accept so if Manure etc. offer £50m for Guehi and we decide we'll take the money, Chelsea can come in with a bid for the same amount and get him back. I’ve seen the article now, Seems a strange one to me, basically admitting you dropped a bollock letting him go in the first place, just shows some of the top clubs have more money than sense. Using your example price of £50 million, that would’ve cost them £32 million for us to basically help them with his development for a year, crazy!!
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monkey

Made in Bromley 02 Apr 22 6.13pm

Originally posted by doombear

I’ve seen the article now, Seems a strange one to me, basically admitting you dropped a bollock letting him go in the first place, just shows some of the top clubs have more money than sense. Using your example price of £50 million, that would’ve cost them £32 million for us to basically help them with his development for a year, crazy!!

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Qwijibo Bournemouth 02 Apr 22 6.26pm
Originally posted by monkey I’ve seen the article now, Seems a strange one to me, basically admitting you dropped a bollock letting him go in the first place, just shows some of the top clubs have more money than sense. Using your example price of £50 million, that would’ve cost them £32 million for us to basically help them with his development for a year, crazy!! It's not that crazy. Maybe they wanted a specific buy-back figure, but we refused to let them have it. So a 'matching' clause was a compromise. I said somewhere else, it protects them from having us add £10m to an asking price, just because it's Chelsea, when AC Milan come in with eg. £50m. Also, if say for example they did pay the £50m, for them to pay us the extra £32m to get a proven elite level PL player is expensive but at least the closest thing you'll get to a guarantee. They spent £58m on Morata, £40m on Tiemoue Bakayoko and various others who flopped. Regardless of the due diligence, it's always a gamble. It is annoying the amount of articles that popped up in the last week or so implying Chelsea have this favourable deal in place, when in reality it just gives them first refusal if WE decide to sell him.
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Qwijibo

Bournemouth 02 Apr 22 6.26pm

Originally posted by monkey

It's not that crazy.

Maybe they wanted a specific buy-back figure, but we refused to let them have it. So a 'matching' clause was a compromise.

I said somewhere else, it protects them from having us add £10m to an asking price, just because it's Chelsea, when AC Milan come in with eg. £50m.

Also, if say for example they did pay the £50m, for them to pay us the extra £32m to get a proven elite level PL player is expensive but at least the closest thing you'll get to a guarantee. They spent £58m on Morata, £40m on Tiemoue Bakayoko and various others who flopped. Regardless of the due diligence, it's always a gamble.

It is annoying the amount of articles that popped up in the last week or so implying Chelsea have this favourable deal in place, when in reality it just gives them first refusal if WE decide to sell him.

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