That doesn't make sense, my egalitarian friend.

You have simply compared rates but you cannot do that without looking at how many earn each amount and pay each amount of tax. Then you add these up and we'll see who contributes most to the exchequer, surely.

On the other hand, those millions who are in the lower wage-earning bracket have to put up with a measly 1%.

I'm Not jealous, so put your sick-bag away. Unlike you, I worry about those who are worse off than me rather than being jealous of those who earn more.

I suppose, in your eyes, that makes ma a 'Leftie, do-gooder' Lol.

It does work if you use %. It’s clearly different if you use pound notes.
You cannot mix the two and use either for your argument.
Obviously any % of a higher amount is a higher figure if you use lemons, cars or money. It’s maths, it’s how it works. What does your firm calculate profits with as a usable factor £ or %. ?

Yes but what are the gross £'s figures for each section that they contribute to the exchequer?

Yes.

Since the last bankers' fiasco, there have been swingeing cuts to both public services and the NHS.

I am not of the opinion that the elderly, the vulnerable and the poor are doing all right really. (What was it? "The feckless poor". Quite the contrary. I think the mark of a society is how those elements are treated. Now
that is something to work towards in this country.

My God, how it's all been allowed to drift into the state we're in by the current government: an absolute horror show, year on year it's got worse. Mismanagement all round.

We were told that Brexit was 'Oven ready' by the 'Eton Mess' Johnson. Now we open the oven door and find the bird is raw.

So many foreign care workers gone back home, with no one to replace them: the elderly blocking hospital beds because there's no room for them in the understaffed care homes through those missing workers. So Ambulances are queueing up outside hospitals, response times massively affected. What a disgraceful shambles.

I did some research the other day, expecting to see that Brexit was the major reason for the NHS labour shortage but I was wrong. Do you know what the main cause is? People just leaving the service because they just can't put up with the stress of under - budgeting and staffing shortages causing more and more workload:: it's never ending. 13 years of Tory rule and this is what you get.

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If that's the never ending 'should be the other lot in' line I am reluctant to agree. It's a turd show all round as things stand from my perspective.

The rest is a worryingly... very worryingly good summary of things.

I have a pregnant wife at home and our recent research has been somewhat defined as 'Where's the least dangerous location for midwives/maternity care etc.'. The NHS has to be one of the most underappreciated institutions in the history of Christendom. I say that with no personal stake in it via employment or otherwise.

It does just seem like everything is a shambles, doom n gloom etc at the moment. The Conservative party have lost the better parts of their identity and exacerbated the worst, the Labour party looks like the Rocky Horror Show and no obvious third option in sight.

God Save the King... and the rest of us at this rate.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

You are correct Stirling. I have used envy before but the bottom line is that they want to make the rich poor to feel good about themselves, so that the poor will be poorer and the rich will still be richer. It ends with venezuala. Bottom line Sharing the wealth f***s everyone but the poor the worst. Anyhow these don’t know poor. When did the last person die of hunger on uk streets. Like100s of years ago but look east and west and it is happening daily. Not a clue mate not a clue imho which maybe jank but it’s an observation which can be countered. Good health my friend.