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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 25 Jan 24 9.12pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

More grist to the mill. Have to say, IMO the Standard aren't wrong with this article

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Says it all really

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 24 9.31pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I shall refrain from apportioning culpability in relation to the Board or Mr Hodgson.
I will not gallivant down that well trodden path !

I just want a return to those halcyon days where I actually looked forward to attending matches at Selhurst Park.At present I feel rather deflated akin to a pouffe without its wadding.
My dial rests on 'Negative' like a fallen elm.

Edited by Willo (25 Jan 2024 9.45pm)

 

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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 25 Jan 24 11.31pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I shall refrain from apportioning culpability in relation to the Board or Mr Hodgson.
I will not gallivant down that well trodden path !

I just want a return to those halcyon days where I actually looked forward to attending matches at Selhurst Park.At present I feel rather deflated akin to a pouffe without its wadding.
My dial rests on 'Negative' like a fallen elm.

Edited by Willo (25 Jan 2024 9.45pm)

I think Willo is saying he’s pissed off.

 


I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 24 11.37pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

I think Willo is saying he’s pissed off.

It is better to be pis..d OFF, than pis..d ON.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 26 Jan 24 3.23am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I shall refrain from apportioning culpability in relation to the Board or Mr Hodgson.
I will not gallivant down that well trodden path !

I just want a return to those halcyon days where I actually looked forward to attending matches at Selhurst Park.At present I feel rather deflated akin to a pouffe without its wadding.
My dial rests on 'Negative' like a fallen elm.

Edited by Willo (25 Jan 2024 9.45pm)

You've still got Elm? Surely not.
But if you have then surely they are longer in the tooth than Hodgson.

Edited by dreamwaverider (26 Jan 2024 3.25am)

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 26 Jan 24 3.33am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Poor old Roy is looking awful in that picture above. Tired, old and very stressed.

Is it all worth it?

Apart from greed and money, then I would very much doubt it.

His health and wellbeing are something both he and Palace should be keeping a very close eye on. Especially after that turn before Villa away.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 26 Jan 24 9.11am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

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A Jonathan Llew piece in the Guardian worth a view.
One line sticks out, ‘A Hodgson team without thrust and energy is basically indistinguishable from a square dance.’

 

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View BelfastEagle's Profile BelfastEagle Flag 26 Jan 24 9.24am Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

The lazy decision to take the simplest option with the least resistance and give him another contract at the end of last season is coming back to bite the board. Don’t blame Roy he does what he thinks is best for the club he loves. It’s the board that are to blame who lack any coherent vision for the future. They continue to waste the talent that they have.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 26 Jan 24 9.28am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Poor old Roy is looking awful in that picture above. Tired, old and very stressed.

Is it all worth it?

Apart from greed and money, then I would very much doubt it.

His health and wellbeing are something both he and Palace should be keeping a very close eye on. Especially after that turn before Villa away.

Yes. I wonder about the Roy apologists. Roy didn't have to take the job. When Parish and the board decided that Vieira had to go, apparently Parish approached Roy and they worked out a deal for the rest of the season. A bit like Watford for Roy, except this time happy endings all round. Roy didn't have to take that on, and he certainly didn't have to take this season on either.
Don't feel sorry for him now it gone tits up, the hubris, the arrogance, and the lure of the £££ meant he couldn't resist.
In the end it's Parish's weakness and inability to find a new manager that brought Roy back. Between the two of them they've done enough damage already.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 26 Jan 24 9.46am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Yes. I wonder about the Roy apologists. Roy didn't have to take the job. When Parish and the board decided that Vieira had to go, apparently Parish approached Roy and they worked out a deal for the rest of the season. A bit like Watford for Roy, except this time happy endings all round. Roy didn't have to take that on, and he certainly didn't have to take this season on either.
Don't feel sorry for him now it gone tits up, the hubris, the arrogance, and the lure of the £££ meant he couldn't resist.
In the end it's Parish's weakness and inability to find a new manager that brought Roy back. Between the two of them they've done enough damage already.

I don't want to be labelled as an '' apologist '', I prefer to think of myself as someone that tries, not always successfully, to see the bigger picture.

In this instance, given that things went so well at the end of last season was, I think , a big factor in both Parish giving Hodgson the job and him accepting it.

Of course Roy didn't have to accept the job. But for you to accuse him of greed and arrogance is typical of your inability to do anything other than critisise him. I know of ' driven ' people that carry on working when they don't need to. It's not for me but I respect their desire even if it doesn't suit me.

It's regrettable that Zaha didn't stay or was replaced. That the transfer budget was used the way it was. That the season has been disrupted by injuries. Because those issues are not directly under Hodgson's control. Things may have been very different.

And just to re-iterate, I didn't want Roy appointed this season either.

 


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View palace chick's Profile palace chick Flag South Croydon 26 Jan 24 9.48am Send a Private Message to palace chick Add palace chick as a friend

Originally posted by BelfastEagle

The lazy decision to take the simplest option with the least resistance and give him another contract at the end of last season is coming back to bite the board. Don’t blame Roy he does what he thinks is best for the club he loves. It’s the board that are to blame who lack any coherent vision for the future. They continue to waste the talent that they have.

In truth after a good turn around after taking over from PV a lot of us fans were happy that he was given another year. Main problem has been the injuries to Olise, Eze and Doucoure. And no strengthening of the squad by the board, especially after losing Zaha. We required a right back, central midfielder in case of that spine losing a key player (it happened) and perhaps a forward and left back to challenge Mitchell. Don’t think much of that is down to Hodgson, but he does need to go now as those injuries has meant our rigid formation he plays means players coming in have been playing out of position and making us weaker. You would hope a new manager would have a plan B unlike Hodgson? Im fairly sure we would be much higher up the table even with Hodgson in charge if it hadn’t been for injuries to major players?

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 26 Jan 24 9.52am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

"I really am stepping away from football for a while, but who knows what the future will be? It is a never-say-never moment. I've seen so many people retire with all the fanfare blazing, only to surface again somewhere in a fairly short period of time. I'd prefer not to do that."

Roy then turns up at Watford, Palace, and Palace again.

You've got to admire the board and some well thought out strategy:

Parish: It's agreed that Vieira has to go?
Others: Definitely. But who is available to take over at such short notice?
Parish: Don't worry, I know what motivates Roy.
Others: Roy? We all breathed a sigh of relief when he finally left last time!
Parish: Yes I know but beggars can't be choosers. Leave it to me.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (26 Jan 2024 10.01am)

 

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