Holocaust Day
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 matt_himself  Matataland 27 Jan 17 6.49pm |
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Lest we forget.
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Kermit8  Hevon 27 Jan 17 6.55pm |
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Indeed. Each one remains incomprehensible no matter how much research and reading on the subject. How some humans can do that to other humans? We live very fortunate lives.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 27 Jan 17 7.16pm |
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Having been to most of the 'camps' due to my work in ferrying Tourists around & have felt the shivers at the camps, WHY is Holocaust Day only reserved for the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau by the Russians(who went on to murder many jews)? There were so many other camps that, at times were far worse in their killing ratio....Treblinka/Dachau/Sobibor & many more RIP
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| Kermit8 Hevon 27 Jan 17 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Having been to most of the 'camps' due to my work in ferrying Tourists around & have felt the shivers at the camps, WHY is Holocaust Day only reserved for the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau by the Russians(who went on to murder many jews)? There were so many other camps that, at times were far worse in their killing ratio....Treblinka/Dachau/Sobibor & many more RIP Holocaust Day is supposed to remember every genocide and not only the Jewish one but, reasonably, that does get the most attention because of the specifics and sheer numbers. I only found out recently the Germans had a dry run 40 years earlier with a mass killing of a specific tribe in South West Africa (their colony) when Hitler was only 11. wtf?
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 27 Jan 17 8.40pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Holocaust Day is supposed to remember every genocide and not only the Jewish one but, reasonably, that does get the most attention because of the specifics and sheer numbers. I only found out recently the Germans had a dry run 40 years earlier with a mass killing of a specific tribe in South West Africa (their colony) when Hitler was only 11. wtf? Nobody will ever top Genghis Khan. But, for whatever reason, the Jewish one seems worse.
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| Bert the Head Epsom 27 Jan 17 9.15pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Lest we forget. Yes good call 5.93 million jews All slaughtered by Fascism. I hope we can have similar days to remember the many other genocides that human beings commit against one another. Perhaps one to remember native Americans wiped out by immigrants to America; The Cambodian killed by the Khmer Rouge (who were then, after the Vietnamese stepped in to rescue then, supported by the UK and the USA to kill even more Cambodians; the victims of Stalin, The victims of Suharto in Indonesia, of Pinochet in Chile and the Palestinians murdered in 1948 when the Israeli settlers drove the more fortunate Palestinians from their homes. The last is a slow burning genocide; But slowly, slowly the state if Israel is getting there. There are of course many others.
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| Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 27 Jan 17 10.02pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
Yes good call 5.93 million jews All slaughtered by Fascism. I hope we can have similar days to remember the many other genocides that human beings commit against one another. Perhaps one to remember native Americans wiped out by immigrants to America; The Cambodian killed by the Khmer Rouge (who were then, after the Vietnamese stepped in to rescue then, supported by the UK and the USA to kill even more Cambodians; the victims of Stalin, The victims of Suharto in Indonesia, of Pinochet in Chile and the Palestinians murdered in 1948 when the Israeli settlers drove the more fortunate Palestinians from their homes. The last is a slow burning genocide; But slowly, slowly the state if Israel is getting there. There are of course many others. Keeps rent low though.....
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| Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jan 17 10.07pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
Yes good call 5.93 million jews All slaughtered by Fascism. I hope we can have similar days to remember the many other genocides that human beings commit against one another. Perhaps one to remember native Americans wiped out by immigrants to America; The Cambodian killed by the Khmer Rouge (who were then, after the Vietnamese stepped in to rescue then, supported by the UK and the USA to kill even more Cambodians; the victims of Stalin, The victims of Suharto in Indonesia, of Pinochet in Chile and the Palestinians murdered in 1948 when the Israeli settlers drove the more fortunate Palestinians from their homes. The last is a slow burning genocide; But slowly, slowly the state if Israel is getting there. There are of course many others.
We can remember these events all we like but human nature won't change and chances are as the world population swells to huge numbers it will only get worse.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 27 Jan 17 10.32pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
Yes good call 5.93 million jews All slaughtered by Fascism. I hope we can have similar days to remember the many other genocides that human beings commit against one another. Perhaps one to remember native Americans wiped out by immigrants to America; The Cambodian killed by the Khmer Rouge (who were then, after the Vietnamese stepped in to rescue then, supported by the UK and the USA to kill even more Cambodians; the victims of Stalin, The victims of Suharto in Indonesia, of Pinochet in Chile and the Palestinians murdered in 1948 when the Israeli settlers drove the more fortunate Palestinians from their homes. The last is a slow burning genocide; But slowly, slowly the state if Israel is getting there. There are of course many others. Indeed there are - many more by communist regimes.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 27 Jan 17 11.03pm |
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We wiped out Tasmanian aboriginals too and the Jews of York - lest we forget. rip
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| Bert the Head Epsom 27 Jan 17 11.26pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Indeed there are - many more by communist regimes. You are being very selective...after all Hitler wasn't a communist and neither was Suharto or Pinochet. But I'm not so blinkered to think that communist haven't committed atrocities. Maybe a blinked view of history is your thing. Each to their own. Its the age of alternative facts after all
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| Bert the Head Epsom 27 Jan 17 11.39pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
We wiped out Tasmanian aboriginals too and the Jews of York - lest we forget. rip Hrolf the Ganger and Kermit you are right - lets get our own memorial going 5.93 million jews All slaughtered by Fascism. Tasmanian aboriginals
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