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Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 25 Aug 22 10.59am

Originally posted by Badger11

I don't understand why she is complaining. She has left the BBC for a station that encourages its presenters to shares their views on everything so is now free to have an opinion on whatever.

Well if she wants the BBC to have the same freedom then the answer is simple abolish the licence fee.

I don't think you've read the article properly if you don't recognise the problems she's articulating.

Having a former Tory spin doctor dictate BBC impartiality and presenting issues evenly despite a considerable uneven split in professional opinion doesn't scream good journalism.

Edited by Wilesy01 (25 Aug 2022 11.00am)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Aug 22 2.08pm

If the Tories are controlling BBC output, then they must be driving a left wing, Woke agenda.

I know the Tories are hardly conservative any more, but that seems incredible.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 25 Aug 22 2.22pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If the Tories are controlling BBC output, then they must be driving a left wing, Woke agenda.

I know the Tories are hardly conservative any more, but that seems incredible.


The far left regard even the neo liberals as right wingers.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 25 Aug 22 3.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If the Tories are controlling BBC output, then they must be driving a left wing, Woke agenda.

I know the Tories are hardly conservative any more, but that seems incredible.

Medieval royalty were always wary of the Church. Modern politicians are very wary of the new opinion-leaders.

Be nice to the media or they will Bury your political career. Boris got nailed by a hostile media. Not the first nor the last politician to learn the hard way.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

cryrst Flag The garden of England 25 Aug 22 5.59pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Medieval royalty were always wary of the Church. Modern politicians are very wary of the new opinion-leaders.

Be nice to the media or they will Bury your political career. Boris got nailed by a hostile media. Not the first nor the last politician to learn the hard way.

He should have longed it out as the next election is gone. He should have made them carry him out kicking and screaming. f***ing lightweight and this is the proof !

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Aug 22 6.08pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

I don't think you've read the article properly if you don't recognise the problems she's articulating.

Having a former Tory spin doctor dictate BBC impartiality and presenting issues evenly despite a considerable uneven split in professional opinion doesn't scream good journalism.

Edited by Wilesy01 (25 Aug 2022 11.00am)

Hmm

BBC is supposed to be impartial - Fact

BBC has warned its presenters not make political comments that could threaten it's impartiality - Fact

Emily M has been in trouble with the BBC on 3 occasions for the above.

You are concerned there is a Tory in the BBC he must be the only one as the vast majority of staff and senior management are not. - Supposition on my part but probably not far off the truth.

Emily M now has a new show on LBC so is reworking this old story to boost her profile - Supposition on my part but it certainly wont hurt her.

 


One more point

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 25 Aug 22 6.35pm

There is a balance in the BBC.

Half their output is centre-left and the other half is hard-left.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 25 Aug 22 8.11pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

I don't think you've read the article properly if you don't recognise the problems she's articulating.

Having a former Tory spin doctor dictate BBC impartiality and presenting issues evenly despite a considerable uneven split in professional opinion doesn't scream good journalism.

Edited by Wilesy01 (25 Aug 2022 11.00am)

Indeed Wilesy- I had to stop listening to the 5 live morning show with Nicky Campbell as they had to balance all the incompetence of bungles cabinet and his own incompetence and lies with a caveat-" of course all parties break the law"! etc etc, you couldn"t make it up!

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Aug 22 10.59pm

John Simpson that well known Tory supporter and BBC hater (joke) has told Emily M she is wrong.

This is all about her promoting her new job e.g. BBC tried to muzzle me but on LBC I can speak my mind. I don't blame her for that it's nothing new stoking up publicity just don't be fooled. She was wrong and I suspect she knows it.

 


One more point

Wilesy01 Flag Bristol 25 Aug 22 11.44pm

Originally posted by Badger11

John Simpson that well known Tory supporter and BBC hater (joke) has told Emily M she is wrong.

This is all about her promoting her new job e.g. BBC tried to muzzle me but on LBC I can speak my mind. I don't blame her for that it's nothing new stoking up publicity just don't be fooled. She was wrong and I suspect she knows it.

Your prior post alongside this one detailing John Simpson's tweet still does not grasp EM's criticism on how to properly present balance in an instance where there is a significantly uneven split of professional view.

Do you play out both sides of the argument without any further moderation? Does this properly inform someone of the broader argument? Is it responsible of a public broadcaster?

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 25 Aug 22 11.47pm

Originally posted by Badger11

John Simpson that well known Tory supporter and BBC hater (joke) has told Emily M she is wrong.

This is all about her promoting her new job e.g. BBC tried to muzzle me but on LBC I can speak my mind. I don't blame her for that it's nothing new stoking up publicity just don't be fooled. She was wrong and I suspect she knows it.

No, she"s right, I like her, she dismantled randy andy and probably was hounded out of the bbc by not following the new rules imposed by the CONservative take over! I have stopped listening to the 5 live shows because of them having to cover up every CONservative cock up by saying-anybody can make mistakes! She"s a great, no nonsense reporter, and very very sexy- fcuk off you CON wokey kokeys-after 12 years of your crap i say it as it is!

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 25 Aug 22 11.49pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Your prior post alongside this one detailing John Simpson's tweet still does not grasp EM's criticism on how to properly present balance in an instance where there is a significantly uneven split of professional view.

Do you play out both sides of the argument without any further moderation? Does this properly inform someone of the broader argument? Is it responsible of a public broadcaster?

It"s the shutting down of democracy Wilesy, you know it, I know it,Emily knows it!

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 25 Aug 22 11.52pm

EM for pm people? Might as well, the only. only way is up!

 

Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 26 Aug 22 1.33am

I had a rabid dog once. As much as it pained me, I shot it. Shame.

 


Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Stirlingsays Flag 28 Aug 22 12.18pm

Paul Embury and Arlene Foster react to Emily Maitlis' comments on the BBC's impartiality.

[Link]

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Aug 22 12.45pm

And that is a Lefty saying that.

It is truly incredible that after Trump and Brexit anyone can say that the BBC isn't totally Liberal Left biased.

The truth is that the BBC attitude is totally out of line with the majority in Britain, and those self appointed arrogant arbiters of right think can't bring themselves to accept that.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Aug 22 1.36pm

What is surprising is the number of heavyweights who are not Tory weighing in and defending the BBC against EM. Some people on here can't see the obvious she is plugging her new show by stirring up controversy.

Laura Kuenssberg the latest to weigh in and defend the BBC.

 


One more point

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Sep 22 9.22am

I wonder how the many BBC haters here react to the way they have handled the last 7 days?

I think it has been nothing short of magnificent, showing respect and sensitivity in equal measure. It has reflected the mood of the nation perfectly and shown, to me at least, why the BBC is something we all ought to be proud of.

The coverage of yesterday’s ceremony, the live streaming of Westminster Hall, and the interviews with those paying their respects shows us all at our best.

The constant bitching on these pages that the UK is somehow a lesser place than it used to be, along with the nonsense that the BBC is biased, has been comprehensively shown to be totally misplaced.

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Sep 22 9.45am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wonder how the many BBC haters here react to the way they have handled the last 7 days?

I think it has been nothing short of magnificent, showing respect and sensitivity in equal measure. It has reflected the mood of the nation perfectly and shown, to me at least, why the BBC is something we all ought to be proud of.

The coverage of yesterday’s ceremony, the live streaming of Westminster Hall, and the interviews with those paying their respects shows us all at our best.

The constant bitching on these pages that the UK is somehow a lesser place than it used to be, along with the nonsense that the BBC is biased, has been comprehensively shown to be totally misplaced.

Orrrr....

The BBC is primarily concerned with aligning to whatever the current zeitgeist is.

The order of the day has been the death of our longest reigning monarch, naturally. Soon it will return to liberal gibberish and nonsense.

I admire your efforts however.


 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Sep 22 9.57am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Orrrr....

The BBC is primarily concerned with aligning to whatever the current zeitgeist is.

The order of the day has been the death of our longest reigning monarch, naturally. Soon it will return to liberal gibberish and nonsense.

I admire your efforts however.


Isn't that what the national broadcaster is supposed to do? It isn't political. Its job is to reflect opinion and not direct it.

Thus, when I say "reflected the mood of the nation", it's doing what it is supposed to do and, in my opinion, always does do.

That some don't like it is inevitable, but so long as they come from both sides of politics, as they do, then they are getting things broadly right. It's just that you don't get the left posting here, so you don't get to read their bitching.

 


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