As reading any contribution here is entirely your decision might I suggest you simply ignore any posts which upset your delicate sensibilities.

Completely up to you, of course.

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My first point I high lighted crordon and your answer was
It's not official policy to build anything on the green belt! It's just a suggestion by some NIBY resident groups which has no chance of getting anywhere.

Then when I mention Birmingham have already done it you change your tune and all of a sudden it's ok to build on green belt.
You wrote.
"For sure an increasing urban population demands increasing housing and that in turn might mean finding pockets of underutilised green spaces that can be used. That doesn't mean there is a major threat to our green spaces."

The clear fact is your immigration policy is driving us to build on green belt and your to stubborn to admit mass immigration is now having BAD consequences,

You know it's wrong,your grand kids know it's wrong. Your policies are ruining this country.

Ps. It's clear when somone is loosing an Argument because they always go down the bad spelling route lol

Edited by dannyboy1978 (27 Oct 2019 6.14am)

ohhh more insults, keep it up!

The suggestion about building on the green belt in the Croydon area was what you referenced and what I initially commented on as coming from NIBYs, which locally has no chance of being taken seriously. Which is true.

You then switched to another report in Birmingham which made some different points, which I responded to by saying that different situations demand different solutions. Which is true.

It's also true that there is no overall threat to the green belt but as the demand for housing increases it would be silly to adopt a totally inflexible position but keep an open mind and revisit decisions made decades ago if to do so makes sense.

I don't have an "immigration policy"! What on earth are you talking about. All I am trying to do is point out what is pretty obvious if you step back from all the emotion and hype surrounding Brexit. Which is that immigration is unlikely to be significantly impacted as a consequence. Politicians make claims and no-one will know the precise result until it happens but logic and history suggests your claims are well off the mark. Indeed if half the things predicted by the ultra leavers about the way our economy will react to being "free" of the EU then we will require an increase to immigration to cope with the demand for labour.

Your idea that my "policies" are ruining our country is completely nuts. I don't have any "policies"! I am not in government. I am responding to events. It is simply my belief that if we cannot remain within the EU, which was my preference, then the minimum we must seek is to negotiate as close a working arrangement with them as is possible. So avoiding a "no deal" Brexit is the first priority. Once done we can look at what the next options are.

Whether you think my, and my grand kids, views are "wrong" is of no consequence. What matters is what actually happens and that is still all to play for. Whose argument wins, or loses, won't be known for the next 10 or 20 years.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (27 Oct 2019 8.58am)

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Thank you for confirming that whilst you don't like my style, which is entirely your right, that there wasn't any insult. Which is all I was asking.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

There are many posters here whose style I don't like at all, but I don't make comments about that because that's not the subject. I respond to posts and sometimes raise new ideas. How I do it isn't, in my opinion, really a matter that warrants distracting comment, but that's not my decision. Now if you really want to read some insults try rereading your last post. It doesn't bother me at all but as you seem a little fixated on them there's a real example.

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Well, I posted that on purpose, just to show you how blind you can be when it comes to posting insults (which you do all the time) Hence the lol after the comment. How is what I posted any different to that which you posted ?' People like you', one of your favourites, is no different to 'your sort of people'is it? Be honest wissy, if you dont like it, why should others??

Edited by the silurian (27 Oct 2019 4.13pm)

Edited by the silurian (27 Oct 2019 4.14pm)

I don't just deny that "mass immigration" has caused problems I deny that there has been "mass immigration". It's a term that is thrown out in the right wing press far too easily but "mass" to me means huge, overwhelming numbers and I just don't think is true. Yes, since WW2 we have witnessed various waves of immigration and since the accession of the eastern European states increasing numbers. The biggest issue is not the overall numbers but the fact that the newcomers seem to have been concentrated in specific areas.

That I originally voted to remain, and continue to believe it would be, on balance, better if we did so, doesn't mean I am blind to these issues. I just think they can be handled with us inside as they are not for me an overwhelming issue. Others are more important.

My grand kids will pay the price if we leave. Like many young people they have spent a lot of time in other parts of Europe, regard themselves as European and work for businesses with strong connections in Europe. They have friends all over Europe and my daughter thinks nothing of flying to Berlin for a long weekend with her old work mates there.

Balancing our need for immigration with the level of the number of immigrants actually arriving is a real issue which will need to be addressed whatever the outcome of the present hiatus.

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Sorry to disappoint you.

It doesn't make me the least bit happy that someone else has done this. All I am doing is responding so that what I regard as untruths don't stand unchallenged. Remember the old adage that:- “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” It might not be directly applicable but I am sure you get the drift.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.