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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Jul 20 2.46pm

Brentford are superbly run.

Their ambition is to achieve Premiership football while remaining sustainable.

That means identifying good, young players that they can develop and sell on at handsome profits.

I do question though if they did get promoted, whether they would be another Norwich...I hope we get the chance to find out.

 

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jeeagles Flag 25 Jul 20 3.12pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

You could argue that no responsible chairman would have offered the manager a 12 month deal given that the squad overhaul needed is going to take longer than that.

I think it was an insurance policy so he wasnt left high and dry.

 
jeeagles Flag 25 Jul 20 3.16pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

Brentford are superbly run.

Their ambition is to achieve Premiership football while remaining sustainable.

That means identifying good, young players that they can develop and sell on at handsome profits.

I do question though if they did get promoted, whether they would be another Norwich...I hope we get the chance to find out.

I'm not sure it's a fair comparison. In the Championship we made a series of fantastic signs. Jedi, Deleany, Murray, Yala, Ward.

Brentford will certainly have to invest to stay up, if they go up. If they stay up for a few seasons, then would be the point to compare transfer strategies

 
NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Jul 20 3.40pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

I'm not sure it's a fair comparison. In the Championship we made a series of fantastic signs. Jedi, Deleany, Murray, Yala, Ward.

Brentford will certainly have to invest to stay up, if they go up. If they stay up for a few seasons, then would be the point to compare transfer strategies

I'm not. My comments were referencing Brentford's policy, nothing to do with Palace

 

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Den1923 Flag 25 Jul 20 8.21pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

I'm not. My comments were referencing Brentford's policy, nothing to do with Palace

quiet correct, whereas CP board seem to be headless chickens!

 
jeeagles Flag 25 Jul 20 10.59pm

Originally posted by Den1923

quiet correct, whereas CP board seem to be headless chickens!

This is why I mentioned it's not a fair comparison Neillo.

We got out of the championship on a shoe string.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jul 20 11.50pm

I overheard a conversation in a local establishment tonight concerning Roy Hodgson and a rotund supporter bellowed out "He's got to go".This was met with universal approval by those in his company.

I was in company with my dear wife and friends and stayed well clear of that debate!

 
hcjbrooks Flag 26 Jul 20 12.10am

I hear from a reliable source that SP is seeking a suitable replacement for RH SP is less than impressed with what he has viewed with his own eyes In the most recent games Hodgson wants experienced older heads in this window whereas as Parish wants youth and fresh ideas Less RH has a miracle win later today and a change of heart he will be not our manager next season

 
The Dolphin Flag 26 Jul 20 6.52am

If Roy is leaving then i Hope a replacement is already sorted otherwise we will have an interesting Summer!

 
southnorwoodhill Flag 26 Jul 20 7.07am

It's really quite remarkable. All Hodgson and the team had to do was to seriously target 8 out the 24 points available at the start of this awful run and things would be quite different - a season end with 50 points, hearty cheers all round, and the next season to look to with positivity. Instead a "we're safe, no need to bother" attitude exemplified by some truly lacklustre performances which suggests the manager has lost the players. Where did it all go wrong?

 
Painter Flag Croydon 26 Jul 20 7.37am

Originally posted by hcjbrooks

I hear from a reliable source that SP is seeking a suitable replacement for RH SP is less than impressed with what he has viewed with his own eyes In the most recent games Hodgson wants experienced older heads in this window whereas as Parish wants youth and fresh ideas Less RH has a miracle win later today and a change of heart he will be not our manager next season

The Daily Mail isn't a reliable source.

 
doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 26 Jul 20 10.02am

Originally posted by Painter

The Daily Mail isn't a reliable source.


neither is the Sunday Mirror. The following per the Beeb this am

"Crystal Palace are targeting Burnley's Sean Dyche as their next manager, with Roy Hodgson's future in doubt after a poor run of form. (Sunday Mirror)"

 
rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 26 Jul 20 2.07pm

I think people are reading far too much into this run of defeats.
Every year we have laughed at other teams that are safe with little to play for 'playing in flipflops'. Doesn't take much with such small margins between teams. Not surprising either that we played a bit better against the top 4 teams.
Well that is us this year, we're a proper premier league team with little to play for and the team unknowingly eased up a bit. So what. Doesn't make Roy a bad manager and we were completely safe with about 8 games to go. An ok league season.

 
ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Jul 20 2.21pm

Originally posted by rollercoaster

I think people are reading far too much into this run of defeats.
Every year we have laughed at other teams that are safe with little to play for 'playing in flipflops'. Doesn't take much with such small margins between teams. Not surprising either that we played a bit better against the top 4 teams.
Well that is us this year, we're a proper premier league team with little to play for and the team unknowingly eased up a bit. So what. Doesn't make Roy a bad manager and we were completely safe with about 8 games to go. An ok league season.

8 games to go. Should have still got a few points - Zero points is unacceptable and smacks of poor management. The problem is end of season form often goes into the following season. Presumably, Roy knows that.

 

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southnorwoodhill Flag 26 Jul 20 2.33pm

Originally posted by rollercoaster

I think people are reading far too much into this run of defeats.
Every year we have laughed at other teams that are safe with little to play for 'playing in flipflops'. Doesn't take much with such small margins between teams. Not surprising either that we played a bit better against the top 4 teams.
Well that is us this year, we're a proper premier league team with little to play for and the team unknowingly eased up a bit. So what. Doesn't make Roy a bad manager and we were completely safe with about 8 games to go. An ok league season.

I disagree. As I wrote above, targeting 8 points from 24 seems reasonable, and achievable. The lack of motivation to achieve an improved position, points total, and financial reward, reeks of poor management.

 
EddieMac Flag 26 Jul 20 2.46pm

Originally posted by rollercoaster

I think people are reading far too much into this run of defeats.
Every year we have laughed at other teams that are safe with little to play for 'playing in flipflops'. Doesn't take much with such small margins between teams. Not surprising either that we played a bit better against the top 4 teams.
Well that is us this year, we're a proper premier league team with little to play for and the team unknowingly eased up a bit. So what. Doesn't make Roy a bad manager and we were completely safe with about 8 games to go. An ok league season.

I can handle the defeats because most of the games we were complete underdogs but the way we played has been abysmal. Not good enough in any way or form. And no point saying we had nothing to play for. After the Bournemouth win we still had a slim shot at Europa league.

 
Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 26 Jul 20 3.25pm

Today is a good day for Roy.

Sakho being out means he can shoe horn in another defensive midfielder.

 
BM Flag 26 Jul 20 6.10pm

I really hope Roy stays and is given some decent players to work with. It’s been a good season overall and the rigour he brings to the team is important. It might not be the most exciting football but how many non-top six sides stay up AND entertain? He’s an excellent manager and if we replace him I think we are more likely to go down next season.

 
cp forever Flag south london 26 Jul 20 6.19pm

I agree, I hope we get some good players in to build a team that can go forward with Roy and Ray who have done great stuff for us, be careful what you wish for.

 
jeeagles Flag 26 Jul 20 11.59pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

I can handle the defeats because most of the games we were complete underdogs but the way we played has been abysmal. Not good enough in any way or form. And no point saying we had nothing to play for. After the Bournemouth win we still had a slim shot at Europa league.

If he wasnt aiming for Europe, he could have used them as 8 friendlies to try new things out.

If we'd lost, he could have then said we were experimenting and probably held off people calling for his head.

Instead he said that he owes it to the (out of form) senior players to give them a place in the team because every place was important. Then bought on a defensive midfielder for a winger with two minutes to go. But he got a point, which haulted his losing streak, then complained that he didn't have Kane so was unlucky again.

 
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