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silvertop Flag Portishead 15 Nov 16 1.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Mine is the politics of common sense.

The liberal mentality has been to use the sins of the past to create a self hating attitude among post war, post empire generations. The very worthy effort to promote equality has been used to place the needs of the few over the needs of the many. The few include ethnic minorities and the ruling classes. The latter uses the former for personal gain and the liberal left are totally blinkered only seeing the plight of the minority,shutting down debate,rejecting democracy and putting their heads in the sand. The backlash was inevitable with the rise of mass migration.
The media is full of these "liberal" tenancies, so it is no surprise that the majority in Britain and US have responded in the only way that they can, through the ballot box.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (14 Nov 2016 3.08pm)


Of course it is darling! However, I agree the other comments on this thread about the impossibility of aligning ones philosophy with that of any party. The "which side are you on?" questions of my youth are now completely redundant.

In some ways I envy the sort of simple souls who are wholly and dogmatically aligned to one party and for whom viewing life through such a narrow prism produces such simple certainties in outlook.

In other ways I do not.

 

jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 15 Nov 16 1.57pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Do you mean the housing crisis caused by non stop rampant immigration?

If we had stopped that 10 years ago, we might have enough houses to live in now, without the need to build over prime agricultural land (on the whole infrastructure change that comes with building more houses).

-.-' FFS

Id say compounded rather than caused. The housing market has been out of control for well over two decades. Freedom of movement has amplified this but caused it probably not.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 15 Nov 16 2.41pm

Originally posted by DanH

Sh*t, I've been rumbled.

It was either that or cage dancing in a fetish bar that I ought you did.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Nov 16 2.56pm

Originally posted by silvertop


Of course it is darling! However, I agree the other comments on this thread about the impossibility of aligning ones philosophy with that of any party. The "which side are you on?" questions of my youth are now completely redundant.

In some ways I envy the sort of simple souls who are wholly and dogmatically aligned to one party and for whom viewing life through such a narrow prism produces such simple certainties in outlook.

In other ways I do not.

Well....my common sense at least.

I see no point in party loyalty. The parties themselves are not loyal to their own philosophies. They are vote hungry opportunists.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Nov 2016 2.57pm)

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Nov 16 3.02pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Id say compounded rather than caused. The housing market has been out of control for well over two decades. Freedom of movement has amplified this but caused it probably not.

Semantics dear boy.

Houses are being built all over the place but how can you resolve a problem that keeps increasing? The only answer is to reduce immigration. The alternative is to have a country which ultimately becomes one giant conurbation.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 16 4.11pm

Only 142,900 built in 2015 and 21% less in 2014 I checked it and frankly its pathetic.

In 1968 Harold Wilson's labour government got 468,00 homes built. I think that surprised me too!!

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Nov 16 4.16pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Only 142,900 built in 2015 and 21% less in 2014 I checked it and frankly its pathetic.

In 1968 Harold Wilson's labour government got 468,00 homes built. I think that surprised me too!!


So you want a country with no country?

Didn't Wilson's government oversee the building of lots of sub standard blocks of flats in inner cities?

Be careful what you wish for comrade.

 

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 Nov 16 4.40pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


So you want a country with no country?

Didn't Wilson's government oversee the building of lots of sub standard blocks of flats in inner cities?

Be careful what you wish for comrade.

Most of Wilsons houses/flats have been demolished due to sub standard build ???

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 16 4.55pm

There's plenty of flats from the 60's in south london unaffordable for most - and unavailable too.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 16 5.01pm

All homes built today must conform to building regs. so that is no longer a problem (I hope) of today so we need a very ambitious target and a determination to deliver homes for everybody - 2 billion in the autumn statement will not be anywhere near enough.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Nov 16 5.12pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

All homes built today must conform to building regs. so that is no longer a problem (I hope) of today so we need a very ambitious target and a determination to deliver homes for everybody - 2 billion in the autumn statement will not be anywhere near enough.

You haven't answered my question.

When you say everybody, you must mean everybody who comes here in their hundreds of thousands every year.

 

Stuk Flag Top half 15 Nov 16 5.20pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

All homes built today must conform to building regs. so that is no longer a problem (I hope) of today so we need a very ambitious target and a determination to deliver homes for everybody - 2 billion in the autumn statement will not be anywhere near enough.

That's why the plug sockets are halfway up the f***ing walls.

"Affordable homes" is one of the stupidest f***ing phrases ever, they cost what they cost and everyone can afford one with a job and a mortgage. Maybe not the exact one you want, but that's not the point when it's a "need".

 


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DanH Flag SW2 15 Nov 16 5.22pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

It was either that or cage dancing in a fetish bar that I ought you did.

One can have a day job and an evening job Matthew.

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 15 Nov 16 6.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You haven't answered my question.

When you say everybody, you must mean everybody who comes here in their hundreds of thousands every year.

This guy never answers questions, Hrolf. I gave up on him long ago.

 


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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 15 Nov 16 7.07pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

This guy never answers questions, Hrolf. I gave up on him long ago.

I think I will too like you have done....

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 16 7.09pm

Sorry I didnt see your reply.

Yes I mean everybody should have a home - this is 2016 why not and hopefully a surplus of homes.

Immigration is a separate matter the tories have failed to meet their target of 100,000 each year its actually 300,000 they have to put the matter right no idea why not.

It is not illegal for any country to have its own immigration policy there is no enforcement except fines which we would not pay surely in the present circumstances. Like Hungary you just have to do it.

IMO of course.

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 15 Nov 16 7.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Semantics dear boy.

Houses are being built all over the place but how can you resolve a problem that keeps increasing? The only answer is to reduce immigration. The alternative is to have a country which ultimately becomes one giant conurbation.

It's only a small plaster on a major wound and it's not the answer. EU Immigration or no EU immigration our population is destined to hit 70million by 2035.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Nov 16 7.22pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

It's only a small plaster on a major wound and it's not the answer. EU Immigration or no EU immigration our population is destined to hit 70million by 2035.

It's what I have been saying. World population will increase at a rapid rate until it finally levels out. If it levels out.
We have to make big decisions to protect our little island from disaster in the near future. We must limit immigration from everywhere and soon. There is a finite amount of resources.

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 15 Nov 16 7.24pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It's what I have been saying. World population will increase at a rapid rate until it finally levels out. If it levels out.
We have to make big decisions to protect our little island from disaster in the near future. We must limit immigration from everywhere and soon. There is a finite amount of resources.


Immigration isn't the biggest problem. Old people not dying, single person households, second home owners and lack of building is.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Nov 16 7.38pm

Originally posted by Kermit8


Immigration isn't the biggest problem. Old people not dying, single person households, second home owners and lack of building is.

How far people will go to deny the obvious. Just amazing.

Old people will die, trust me. It is the ones not born yet that are the problem.

Single person households caused by the breakdown of the family unit can be blamed partly on the liberal left attitudes. Sometimes seemingly outdated ideas were created for a reason. Second home owners are a symptom of the prosperity that this country enjoys.

We need to start worrying about tomorrow not remaining in denial.

 

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