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View snytaxx's Profile snytaxx Flag Beijing 25 Jun 16 8.12am Send a Private Message to snytaxx Add snytaxx as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

That's why he's asked the President. It's just a deal and deals - and treaties - can both be ended.

Ftse was down nearly 8 per cent as predicted and finished around 4 per cent down and you talk as if that was some kind of Brexit victory?

The only good news is that we can now talk in real time facts about the effects of Leave - positive and negative - as they happen and no more scaremongering.

If you want to spin things you can try but the weight of change will, I suspect, be too strong to put any gloss on.

Edited by Kermit8 (25 Jun 2016 7.52am)

Yes Treaties can be ended, but I sincerely doubt the French President (with an Election next year) is just going to go "ah well, lets cancel it then". Ending a treaty takes thought and dialogue on both sides. What will ending the treaty achieve exactly? Ferries which have illegal migrants on them simply wont be allowed to dock, Will the French paralyse their northern border just because the Mayor doesnt like the fact the UK will Brexit? Exactly....

The markets WILL bounce back. You talk as if them markets never crash in EU countries, I doubt that you really care that the market has fallen, I suspect you are more interested in just using this as ammunition in the sour grapes doom and gloom machine you call factual reporting.

As a Brexiteer, let me just write this out one last time.

There wil be market volatility, the next month will cause some problems for the FTSE and the pound. I can't even rule out a mini recession (though I think this is less likely). The long term result though will be a more resilient and stronger Britain. The positives (of which are many) will take about 1-5 years to really start to kick in. Now you can moan all you like about how its all going to s***, doesn't mean it actually is, its short term hysteria (just like when Cameron was elected last year) which will calm down in the next 2 months (if not before).

The question for you is simple, are you willing to make the best of the opportunity we voted for, or will you just sulk while the rest of the world moves on?

 

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View Nevada Eagle's Profile Nevada Eagle Flag Carson City, Nevada 25 Jun 16 8.21am Send a Private Message to Nevada Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Nevada Eagle as a friend

Bloody hell Nigel! What the hell are you going to do now?
The playground is gone now. No more rubbing those EU Brussel kids faces in dog sh!t anymore. Time for a new hobby. I'm gonna miss those EU vids.

 


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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 25 Jun 16 9.03am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by snytaxx

Yes Treaties can be ended, but I sincerely doubt the French President (with an Election next year) is just going to go "ah well, lets cancel it then". Ending a treaty takes thought and dialogue on both sides. What will ending the treaty achieve exactly? Ferries which have illegal migrants on them simply wont be allowed to dock, Will the French paralyse their northern border just because the Mayor doesnt like the fact the UK will Brexit? Exactly....

The markets WILL bounce back. You talk as if them markets never crash in EU countries, I doubt that you really care that the market has fallen, I suspect you are more interested in just using this as ammunition in the sour grapes doom and gloom machine you call factual reporting.

As a Brexiteer, let me just write this out one last time.

There wil be market volatility, the next month will cause some problems for the FTSE and the pound. I can't even rule out a mini recession (though I think this is less likely). The long term result though will be a more resilient and stronger Britain. The positives (of which are many) will take about 1-5 years to really start to kick in. Now you can moan all you like about how its all going to s***, doesn't mean it actually is, its short term hysteria (just like when Cameron was elected last year) which will calm down in the next 2 months (if not before).

The question for you is simple, are you willing to make the best of the opportunity we voted for, or will you just sulk while the rest of the world moves on?

You have opened Pandora's Box but you are a glass three quarter full man. Everything is going to be rosy. Unfortunately, for places like Northern Ireland where the EU has helped significantly in forcing the peace and Cornwall and Wales who have had billions in EU help and for those whose jobs go and bills rise until we get to the 'promised land' five years hence it won't necessarily feel like Brexit was a positive.

 


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View shaun57's Profile shaun57 Flag chislehurst 25 Jun 16 9.08am Send a Private Message to shaun57 Add shaun57 as a friend

And Cornwall and Wales voted which way ?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 25 Jun 16 9.09am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

You have opened Pandora's Box but you are a glass three quarter full man. Everything is going to be rosy. Unfortunately, for places like Northern Ireland where the EU has helped significantly in forcing the peace and Cornwall and Wales who have had billions in EU help and for those whose jobs go and bills rise until we get to the 'promised land' five years hence it won't necessarily feel like Brexit was a positive.

At least slightly more than half of Britain has balls. Great countries aren't fashioned by faint hearts.

Brexit is a positive and will be regarded as a positive long term. It will be difficult due to the EU's reaction but in the long term this country will succeed and govern itself.

Believers in the nation state all around Europe are rejoicing and the federalists and globalists have had this coming: undemocratic bully boys.

Viva democracy.


Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jun 2016 9.11am)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 9.17am

The Scottish mail on Thursday urged people to vote remain! Anyone would think they want an independent Scotland to carve Labour up...

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 25 Jun 16 9.39am

Brit's again doing what we do best, LEADING!
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VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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View crystal balls's Profile crystal balls Flag The Garden of Earthly Delights 25 Jun 16 9.43am Send a Private Message to crystal balls Add crystal balls as a friend

Originally posted by snytaxx

Mayor of Calais has no ability to rescind the treaty of Tourquet as I think its known, much like Nigel Farage can't decide where to spend the extra money will free up from not paying for EU membership. Hollow words!

As for Moody's, they probably would of done the same if Scotland had left the UK and / or Corbyn gets elected. Once things settle down in the next month or so, things will improve again.

Oddly enough, you failed to mention how the FTSE escaped the worst of the BREXIT shock? Its almost as if you are looking for excuses to talk the UK down....

FTSE 100 consists mainly of multi-national companies who are largely immune from UK domestic conditions. FTSE 250 is a better indicator of UK conditions, and that fell by 7.2% yesterday, worst fall since Black Friday. Recession later this year almost inevitable, and 4-5 years of uncertainty yet to feed in to the markets fully.

Who knows what will happen in 5 years time. I feel that economically we'll be ok eventually, but we're in for a major bumpy ride meanwhile, and anyone retiring in the next few years or looking to borrow money may rue the outcome of the referendum.

 


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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 25 Jun 16 10.03am

Is very important remain voters watch [Link]

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 10.06am

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Meanwhile in Cornwall

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Jun 16 10.14am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Eggy

This - not a good day for our children who will have to live the rest of their lives with the consequences of this decision.

Stop worrying about the future.

To borrow from Doctor Zaius,

We might have just saved it for you....

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 25 Jun 16 10.18am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by crystal balls

FTSE 100 consists mainly of multi-national companies who are largely immune from UK domestic conditions. FTSE 250 is a better indicator of UK conditions, and that fell by 7.2% yesterday, worst fall since Black Friday. Recession later this year almost inevitable, and 4-5 years of uncertainty yet to feed in to the markets fully.

Who knows what will happen in 5 years time. I feel that economically we'll be ok eventually, but we're in for a major bumpy ride meanwhile, and anyone retiring in the next few years or looking to borrow money may rue the outcome of the referendum.

It's good to see someone that understands what has happened here.

We will lose ground. We may eventually get back to where we were before this started but we will never recover the lost impetus. We have done a very serious thing to our economy and we shall need to find ways of minimising the damage. But let nobody be under the illusion we have not created lasting damage.

Now we have to use all of our wit and energy to recover. We should have been using it to accelerate out of recession. Such a waste for relatively minor political gains.

 

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