4 points from Fulham and United at home sounds fantastic. 2 does not.

Even if we won last night, the 3 points should be from the Fulham game, not the United one. That's where the issue is.

We will inevetiably have the 1 or 2 games a season where we scalp a top 4 team. It's been United, City, Liverpool and Chelsea over the last few seasons.

It's like a 'nice to have' memory but nothing more. It didn't determine our place in the Premier League or make us an attractive prospect for new Players.

If we could attack the lesser teams like we did United last night, we win most of them. Then you can lose all the big games because it doesn't matter.

Or of course you can park the bus and bore a 0-0 out of them if you are playing well all your other games.

As a fan, if we were allowed in Stadiums, I'd love to see Palace show why they are established against Fulham and then midweek turn up with zero expectations, drink a lot of beer, sing a lot of songs aimed at United and then be pleasantly surprised by a 0-0.

Here's a question. Do you reckon pundits read this thread?

In our recent games, different TV talking heads have made reference to supporter disquiet regarding our style of play, translating into questions to Roy. They could have got that from the banner of course, but there has also been some slightly deeper comments on budget, spending, reasonable expectations, a clubs place in the scheme of things, and also the possible effect of having so many players out of contract.

I wonder if they are getting all that from here? If not, then where?

Personally I think this thread has gone from predominantly pointless, sometimes rude and generally circular arguments to a pretty good place to understand the subtleties and nuance (and still to sometimes be rude to each other).

Ten minutes on this thread and any neutral would get a good idea of the juggling act involving how hard it can be to watch us, whether results justify performances, the relative investment on Roy's watch, the debate over how good our squad actually is, what kind of football a club our size can actually play in this league, whether a club can reasonably expect to develop simply through spending time in the top flight, and even what the point is of going up if all you can do after is stay up, and staying up is not enjoyable.

There are no shortage of pundits who struggle to form coherent sentences, and so I doubt they are carrying these pretty big issues around in their heads, particularly in relation to Crystal Palace. I wonder therefore if someone (probably not the pundits themselves) is dipping in here to take the temperature?

Edited by TheBigToePunt (04 Mar 2021 11.43am)

Would not be surprised. It is after all a platform for public opinion.
Who knows , Big Toe, you might recognise one of your own quotes one of these afternoons before or after a Palace, game.

I doubt if there are any fans websites, where there aren’t dissenting voices about something. Which goes to prove, it’s impossible to please all fans,

I think it will be a mistake to continue with him for another season.

Can you imagine the response from the Holmesdale End
if we serve up more of the appalling rubbish that's been on display ?

The manager and the team would have been booed off the pitch mercilessly in at least 4 of the previous home matches, especially Burnley - that was the lowest of the low.

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

I'd rather look at Alex Scott than listen to her