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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 19 12.54pm

I can't believe the pathetic excuses Remainers are using for a second referendum.
The BBC have Remainers lining up to promote a second referendum with no proper justification at all. They have no answer when asked why it would not be equally reasonable to have a third one if Remain were to win.

It's all been said. They just want to reverse Brexit.

There is only one way forward without a deal and that is to leave without one. If all parties want to avoid that, including the EU then they must make concessions.

The Remainer Prime Minister needs to go now.

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Apr 19 1.04pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

So it's b****ks then

Yeh, of course it is.

Or maybe it isn't...

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 04 Apr 19 1.05pm

Originally posted by becky

I have just emailed my MP to ask him to check if she had a special dispensation from the Probation Service to break the usual curfew imposed on tag wearers of being at their residence between7 pm and 7 am, and if not what action will be taken against her second criminal act.....I won't hold my breath though

You would be better off exercising your ire at the tory MP who abstained as he was 'piddled off'.


 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 2.04pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

But it still would not be accepted, certainly by some of the posters on here

Acceptance is a tall order for sure, I am simply talking about a pathway out of this s***show.

The vote was basically 50/50 so of course a lot of people are going to be unhappy one way or the other.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Apr 19 2.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I can't believe the pathetic excuses Remainers are using for a second referendum.
The BBC have Remainers lining up to promote a second referendum with no proper justification at all. They have no answer when asked why it would not be equally reasonable to have a third one if Remain were to win.

It's all been said. They just want to reverse Brexit.

There is only one way forward without a deal and that is to leave without one. If all parties want to avoid that, including the EU then they must make concessions.

The Remainer Prime Minister needs to go now.

A snap survey of Conservative members has revealed that 7 out of 10 want Thesesa May to step down as party leader immediately.She can of course continue as PM before a new leader is elected.

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 2.12pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

F the EU.

Not your usual well structured and reasoned offering here, Stirlingsays, but I get the sentiment.

People do feel far more strongly about this than I ever imagined before the first referendum, that is for sure.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 2.15pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I can't believe the pathetic excuses Remainers are using for a second referendum.
The BBC have Remainers lining up to promote a second referendum with no proper justification at all. They have no answer when asked why it would not be equally reasonable to have a third one if Remain were to win.

It's all been said. They just want to reverse Brexit.

There is only one way forward without a deal and that is to leave without one. If all parties want to avoid that, including the EU then they must make concessions.

The Remainer Prime Minister needs to go now.

There is one unquestionable truth to justifying a second vote.

It is a way out of this s***ty situation. Come the end of the day, it might be the only way, and if certainly might be the only way which gives you a chance at still having a brexit of sorts.

Feel free to cry betrayal etc, but I stand by my assertion that the 2016 brexit is an undeliverable high level concept, not something which has a clear path to implementation.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 2.16pm

Originally posted by Willo

A snap survey of Conservative members has revealed that 7 out of 10 want Thesesa May to step down as party leader immediately.She can of course continue as PM before a new leader is elected.

Wtf are the other 3 thinking??!!

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 19 3.48pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

There is one unquestionable truth to justifying a second vote.

It is a way out of this s***ty situation. Come the end of the day, it might be the only way, and if certainly might be the only way which gives you a chance at still having a brexit of sorts.

Feel free to cry betrayal etc, but I stand by my assertion that the 2016 brexit is an undeliverable high level concept, not something which has a clear path to implementation.

Nonsense. It is a sure way to an even s***tier situation.

Time Remains and Business stopped acting like frightened sheep and accepted they must cut ties with Europe. It's the only way to get Europe to wake up. I know that a trading block has its advantages but it comes with a too heavier price.

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 3.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Nonsense. It is a sure way to an even s***tier situation.

Time Remains and Business stopped acting like frightened sheep and accepted they must cut ties with Europe. It's the only way to get Europe to wake up. I know that a trading block has its advantages but it comes with a too heavier price.

Telling business and half the house of commons that they way out of this is for them to get behind a no deal brexit, which they guard against at any price, is not a way forward. The PM has sacked that off now finally, its dead in the water, it is not happening.

Its just a way to a circular discussion.

Its a bit like what has been happening in parliament for the last 6 months, if not 3 years.

No situation could be s***tier than this, as no one knows what the hell is happening.

If we are destined to leave the EU, then for the love of Christ we need to get it over with.

If we are destined to stay now, due to a change in public opinion, then likewise.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 19 4.02pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Telling business and half the house of commons that they way out of this is for them to get behind a no deal brexit, which they guard against at any price, is not a way forward. The PM has sacked that off now finally, its dead in the water, it is not happening.

Its just a way to a circular discussion.

Its a bit like what has been happening in parliament for the last 6 months, if not 3 years.

No situation could be s***tier than this, as no one knows what the hell is happening.

If we are destined to leave the EU, then for the love of Christ we need to get it over with.

If we are destined to stay now, due to a change in public opinion, then likewise.

Public opinion has been tested already and before everyone was deliberately put through all this nonsense.
The only questions are when and how we leave. Leavers do not want a Brexit that is virtually no different to remaining.

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 4.02pm

Never thought I would be watching the House of Lords on a live stream.

It like parliament except the extra years have rendered the jeers and cat calls as quite toothless.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 4.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Public opinion has been tested already and before everyone was deliberately put through all this nonsense.
The only questions are when and how we leave. Leavers do not want a Brexit that is virtually no different to remaining.

And thats why we are in this mess.

A binary answer to a non binary highly complex question.

I agree with a Brexit in all but name, its a nonsense.

None of this changes the simple fact that we are running out of options to move out of the impasse.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 19 4.06pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Never thought I would be watching the House of Lords on a live stream.

It like parliament except the extra years have rendered the jeers and cat calls as quite toothless.

I would have abolished its voting powers years ago.

The wisdom of the old is welcomed but the votes of the unelected are not.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 19 4.14pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

And thats why we are in this mess.

A binary answer to a non binary highly complex question.

I agree with a Brexit in all but name, its a nonsense.

None of this changes the simple fact that we are running out of options to move out of the impasse.

And would you have expected the public to vote on these complex questions? Be serious.

I'm certain that most half intelligent people knew what they wanted from Brexit.
Any vote now on any of the details would be heavily loaded with Party political and globalist bias. It can't happen, even with no option to remain.

Sometimes you have to grit your teeth and walk through the door of uncertainty because it is better than the alternative. In this case, that is political turmoil at a level we haven't seen since Cromwell.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Apr 2019 4.15pm)

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 4.19pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And would you have expected the public to vote on these complex questions? Be serious.

I'm certain that most half intelligent people knew what they wanted from Brexit.
Any vote now on any of the details would be heavily loaded with Party political and globalist bias. It can't happen, even with no option to remain.

Sometimes you have to grit your teeth and walk through the door of uncertainty because it is better than the alternative. In this case, that is political turmoil at a level we haven't seen since Cromwell.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (04 Apr 2019 4.15pm)

That is ballsy when you are talking about peoples jobs and livelihoods.

"Better than the alternative". Therein is an ironic point. The alternative to a no deal brexit could be staying in the EU.

I know you truly believe a no deal crash out of the EU is better than staying in, I just happen to totally disagree with that, as do many.

Seems the PM is on my side of this argument now also, as she has basically ruled out no deal.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 19 4.25pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

That is ballsy when you are talking about peoples jobs and livelihoods.

"Better than the alternative". Therein is an ironic point. The alternative to a no deal brexit could be staying in the EU.

I know you truly believe a no deal crash out of the EU is better than staying in, I just happen to totally disagree with that, as do many.

Seems the PM is on my side of this argument now also, as she has basically ruled out no deal.

Anything other than a proper Brexit will guarantee that this issue will rumble on for decades. People will only see the true cost of remaining when it is too late.

We will be worker drones with no rights to control our destiny and a world media telling us how to think as the planet crumbles around us.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Apr 19 4.26pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

That is ballsy when you are talking about peoples jobs and livelihoods.

"Better than the alternative". Therein is an ironic point. The alternative to a no deal brexit could be staying in the EU.

I know you truly believe a no deal crash out of the EU is better than staying in, I just happen to totally disagree with that, as do many.

Seems the PM is on my side of this argument now also, as she has basically ruled out no deal.

She never wanted this despite what she intimated, just another lying pro-remain MP at heart, apparently advised by her non-elected husband Philip. Google him it is quite enlightening

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Apr 19 4.27pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yeh, of course it is.

Or maybe it isn't...

Perhaps we should have a referendum on this

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 04 Apr 19 5.05pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Perhaps we should have a referendum on this

Best out of 9!

 


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