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View crystal-purley's Profile crystal-purley Flag Purley 31 Oct 17 8.09pm Send a Private Message to crystal-purley Add crystal-purley as a friend

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Originally posted by YT

I’m probably being dense but what’s the significance of the word “swiss” in the above, MikeC?

Pointy seats?

 


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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

You do sit in the most minging stand in the stadium though.

Tbf the odd couple of occasions I've sat in the upper holmesdale and used the red and blue bar it is a completely different experience and I do wonder to myself why I put up with the Arthur.

 

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Originally posted by Goldfiinger

I think we was told they was going to invest £50m in the stadium if the stadium hasn't been developed yet then my assumption would be they haven't hand the money over yet. Why should or would they until the time it's needed for the stadium.

All very well to complain they could spend that money on players and then complain the stadiums not been done. When in all likelyhood the money will be available from them as and when the club is ready to do the work.

But hey hoe I'm sure we can complain that it's not siting in our bank account making us interest and not there's. Or that we haven't spunked it on players.

I'll be upset if we have spent it on players but my assumption is we haven't and that in all likelyhood they'll on the agreement and put the money in as and when it's need for the redevelopment...

But in the meantime everyone can moan that in five years PL status the stadium hasn't been rebuilt.

Spoilt children, if that's what you think.

Point proven...

Carry on children.

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Haven't progressed on one stand yet is closer to the mark.

You can't help but think the last 2 seasons of pretty poor and risky starts, being somewhat hamstrung from poor preparation and transfers, Parish has held back on increasing on whatever offer Sainsburys last declined. It really is a time to get things in order early, then start to be proactive in other areas like stadium, academy, scouting. Get rid of the c0ck up, followed by very costly firefighting approach, forget about winding clocks back and forth and hiring or agreeing with managers on progressive football.

Just equip the managers and players with colleagues to take that pressure off so the club can truly progress. I hope that we survive this season and maybe Parish can finally trust Roy who's got a few years of knowledge to use on whatever Freedman presents to him from some very hard work. Do that and maybe the main stand proposal will be a bit stronger and we can follow it through and start to actually look like that stable prem club rather than just saying it until there's no chance.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Haven't progressed on one stand yet is closer to the mark.

You can't help but think the last 2 seasons of pretty poor and risky starts, being somewhat hamstrung from poor preparation and transfers, Parish has held back on increasing on whatever offer Sainsburys last declined. It really is a time to get things in order early, then start to be proactive in other areas like stadium, academy, scouting. Get rid of the c0ck up, followed by very costly firefighting approach, forget about winding clocks back and forth and hiring or agreeing with managers on progressive football.

Just equip the managers and players with colleagues to take that pressure off so the club can truly progress. I hope that we survive this season and maybe Parish can finally trust Roy who's got a few years of knowledge to use on whatever Freedman presents to him from some very hard work. Do that and maybe the main stand proposal will be a bit stronger and we can follow it through and start to actually look like that stable prem club rather than just saying it until there's no chance.

Exactly right Rudi. We need to steady the ship and be boring for a few years before we can do work to the stadium. Stop the sacking the manager, paying compensation and then more money on a new ones; obviously update the players, but that's what the TV money is for.

If we do this and we get relegated, we'll be in a bit of a situation having to cut players and the like as a result of it. We'd also look a bit silly increasing the stadium size, when our attendance will drop to, at best, 20k.

 


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I thought the main stand had to be done (regardless of what league) on the grounds of health and safety.

 

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The trouble is, the stadium is only ever a priority for the very long term. Cheap would be 150m, which would probably add 10-20m in net revenue (not profit) one day. Fans know that a decent stadium can fundamentally improve what the club is for many decades...why should a New York-based private equity investor care about that, especially after the pound's post-Brexit depreciation wiped a chunk off his investment?

 


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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

The trouble is, the stadium is only ever a priority for the very long term. Cheap would be 150m, which would probably add 10-20m in net revenue (not profit) one day. Fans know that a decent stadium can fundamentally improve what the club is for many decades...why should a New York-based private equity investor care about that, especially after the pound's post-Brexit depreciation wiped a chunk off his investment?

Very true GPW

 


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Originally posted by bexleydave

I'd say it's safer to assume that nothing is happening anytime soon, hence standing the architects down.

... Or that they've fallen by the wayside in the process.. Which is just as likely

 


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Originally posted by dorking

I thought that Parish had been working with the people who designed Liverpool's new Main Stand, KSS Architects?

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They could do a lot worse than use the people who have transformed Bristol City's ground though. Although the away end was still quite basic, the rest of it looked very good, whilst still retaining the character of the old place

the truth is that there are a number of projects the club are looking at... Not just the main stand, but also other stands and the training ground. Many architects will be involved in this process

 


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Originally posted by Lyons550

the truth is that there are a number of projects the club are looking at... Not just the main stand, but also other stands and the training ground. Many architects will be involved in this process


I've no idea how you'd know that (as only those who run the club would be privy to that information), but assuming you're right, perhaps it's about time the club stopped "looking" and started doing. Prevarication is the thief of time, but then again it's Parish's specialist subject.

 


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Been doing a bit of digging (unlike Parish) and have found that there are zero planning applications in at the moment and the training ground? Well, blimey...this is all that has been done it appears since 2010

Demolition of various single storey office and associated buildings and erection of a new two storey extension to the existing main pavillion building, together with the rationalisation and enlargement of the parking areas.
Ref. No: 15/02616/FULL1 | Status: Application Refused
Replacement of the existing steel frame windows and timber frame doors with new double glazed Upvc frame windows and doors. Removal of 2No portacabins and infill extensions.
Ref. No: 16/01313/FULL1 | Status: Application Permitted
Temporary Stationing of 4No portacabins and a water tank
Ref. No: 16/01312/FULL1 | Status: Pending Consideration
Erection of new entrance gates and intercom
Ref. No: 16/05858/FULL1 | Status: Application Permitted


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