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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Mar 17 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

No-one is screwing us but ourselves.

I do agree with you on wages and it would make a big difference if the minimum wage was enforced.

The EU ladies working here did not show up today as another employer will pay the minimum wage.

Good on them.


What does that mean?


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Mar 17 9.12pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Middle Class income?

That's what it says.

This graph shows how wage inequality is closely tied to union membership numbers.

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 27 Mar 17 9.14pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


What does that mean?


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (27 Mar 2017 9.07pm)

I think he is alluding to the fact that our political choices as a nation are akin to punching ourselves in the face.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 27 Mar 17 9.16pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I think he is alluding to the fact that our political choices as a nation are akin to punching ourselves in the face.

Yes that's so.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 27 Mar 17 9.33pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I think he is alluding to the fact that our political choices as a nation are akin to punching ourselves in the face.

Democracy is the problem. Bloody people, they vote for the Tories and Brexit instead of communist-lite policies like Corbyn's. Perhaps we should impose Fred Kite's corn fields and ballet in the evenings on them for their own good.

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 27 Mar 17 9.44pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Democracy is the problem. Bloody people, they vote for the Tories and Brexit instead of communist-lite policies like Corbyn's. Perhaps we should impose Fred Kite's corn fields and ballet in the evenings on them for their own good.

Far too subtle for the HOL.

 


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legaleagle Flag 27 Mar 17 9.55pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Democracy is the problem. Bloody people, they vote for the Tories and Brexit instead of communist-lite policies like Corbyn's. Perhaps we should impose Fred Kite's corn fields and ballet in the evenings on them for their own good.

Maybe the trick is to remember that the film was as much a satire of the Tory-supporting "bosses" as of shop stewards.

As an obituary of Alan Hackney,the author of the novel it was based on, stated:

"I'm All Right Jack, made by the sibling producer-director team of Roy and John Boulting, actually spares nobody, certainly not the bosses, who are avaricious and corrupt where the workers are merely lazy and cunning.

Among the top brass are smoothy Bertram Tracepurcel (Dennis Price), spivvy Sidney De Vere Cox (Richard Attenborough) and toffee-nosed Major Hitchcock (Terry-Thomas). It was Hackney who came up with Terry-Thomas's catch-phrase, "You're an absolute shower," said in the gap-toothed comic's plummiest tones, in reference to anyone who did something of which he disapproved"

We arguably have some of the smoothies, spivvies and and toffee-nosedesque people alive and well in power at present..

Though the late great Peter Sellers was undoubtedly a comic genius,sorely still missed even today.

Edited by legaleagle (27 Mar 2017 9.59pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Mar 17 2.44am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Blimey. You think we don't need 'migrant workers'? That's cloud-cuckoo land and alternative reality talk.

We are not Japan. Never have been, never will be. Their culture is very different to ours and their history so much less influenced by other tribes/peoples over the centuries. It was closed to outsiders for hundreds of years. It's a silly comparison. We are a dna mix all the way from the romans.

Strawman response.

I didn't say we didn't need any migrants. I spoke about the level of migration not stopping all of it.

Japan is an island nation just as we are. Your original argument was not focused upon things like 'DNA'...which is a ridiculous argument. Your argument was based upon stating that mass migration was needed for economic success. This argument isn't only false but it's ignorant of actual economic realities in places such as Japan.

The Japan reality blows your original argument out of the water and now you want to refer to cultural difference!

Here's another piece of reality for you Kermy, not all the Japanese are genetically the same either.

The coming decades will see computer automation change the realities of economics via the workplace...it is already happening and Japan has not suffered any economic collapse or damage to its standard of living due to its policies and desire to keep social cohesiveness.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Mar 2017 4.30am)

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 28 Mar 17 4.29am

saw a think on sky news last week interviewing a british trainer about immigration in the national hunt racing world, he said without the foreign stablehands, national hunt racing would cease to exist, he had tried hiring british stablehands but they either didnt turn up for work on a saturday morning or chucked the job in cos it was to hard work! I was born here,,,,just saying,,,,,,,,

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Mar 17 4.34am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

saw a think on sky news last week interviewing a british trainer about immigration in the national hunt racing world, he said without the foreign stablehands, national hunt racing would cease to exist, he had tried hiring british stablehands but they either didnt turn up for work on a saturday morning or chucked the job in cos it was to hard work! I was born here,,,,just saying,,,,,,,,

I think he's a liar....just saying.

'I hired British but blah blah blah'.

In reality he is talking margins and covering it up with a different argument.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 28 Mar 17 4.42am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think he's a liar....just saying.

'I hired British but blah blah blah'.

In reality he is talking margins and covering it up with a different argument.

i dont think so mate, he was a bit of a toff, not sort to stick up for foreigners, thats what suprised me about the interview, and knowing our culture on a friday night i can see that a youngster would probably fancy a lay in on saturday morning, i know i would!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

i dont think so mate, he was a bit of a toff, not sort to stick up for foreigners, thats what suprised me about the interview, and knowing our culture on a friday night i can see that a youngster would probably fancy a lay in on saturday morning, i know i would!

You don't think toffs stick up for foreigners?

So you think that they don't like the cheap labour then?

The world of business and the ideological left want exactly the same things on immigration....just for different reasons.

They have had their way for the last few decades as well.

 


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