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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 May 17 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

She's just there for the money, and you're the one who said a) she's a spokesperson b) you're not affected by politics.

I hate her for the same reason I hate Diane Abbot, they exist to shut down debate and reason, not extend it. They're the embodiment of the ideology of sound byte politicking

She gets paid to do a job yes,like most people. She is a spokesperson for a certain attitude which makes people react. That is what she is paid for. I don't know her personal opinions or if her public persona reflects them.
Everyone is affected by politics but that doesn't mean you have to align under any particular flag. My politics is the politics of self interest for the most part as is most people's. Party politics is an annoying necessity in our system.

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Her views aren't controversial, their often in fact slanderous and libellous; and as such their the consequence, legally of LBC.

As long as she's not banned, then she isn't being 'shut down' by a conspiracy - If she can't defend her view point, then its a view point that has no value. I very much it was a liberal elite at LBC that hired her.

Now I think you are just defending for the sake of it.

If something is slanderous and libelous then it is automatically controversial to some. That's just pedantic.

If it were possible to ban Katie Hopkins then the activists would do that. She is continually referred to the Police who under our ridiculous current 'hate speech' laws are continually 'investigating' her.

In fact a little knowledge of what the activists are doing shows that they will use any and every legal tool, ethical or unethical to silence her.

Conspiracy? It isn't illegal to complain about someone but it's just ethically wrong to continually pressure employers to sack her because you don't like her.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 May 17 12.53pm

I suspect that LBC might have legal concerns given her statement that we need 'a final solution' in reference to the Manchester attack.

Odd choice of phrase, or deliberate?

 


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Originally posted by dannyh

Explain to me why that is an ignorant statement and not, (by and large) a factual statement of the knife crime in and around Croydon/London ?

Edited by dannyh (26 May 2017 12.48pm)

Paul Condon, one-time Commissioner of the Met, was rounded on by the usual suspects some years ago for stating that the majority of street crime in London was committed by young, black men. And he, of all people, would have been in a unique position to know.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 May 17 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I suspect that LBC might have legal concerns given her statement that we need 'a final solution' in reference to the Manchester attack.

Odd choice of phrase, or deliberate?

Hitler, this early?

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 May 17 12.58pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Now I think you are just defending for the sake of it.

If something is slanderous and libelous then it is automatically controversial to some. That's just pedantic.

If it were possible to ban Katie Hopkins then the activists would do that. She is continually referred to the Police who under our ridiculous current 'hate speech' laws are continually 'investigating' her.

In fact a little knowledge of what the activists are doing shows that they will use any and every legal tool, ethical or unethical to silence her.

Conspiracy? It isn't illegal to complain about someone but it's just ethically wrong to continually pressure employers to sack her because you don't like her.

I think its certainly cross a line to call for a Final Solution.

As for her views, and those who oppose her views, I don't have a problem with that. Speech isn't free of consequence or protest, and nor should it be. Its part of how democratic process seems to work, groups of people on each side attack and try to shut down political discourse - Its kind of how the game is played.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

She represents and promotes the vacuity of celebrity idolatry and the idea that opinions have value. For me, that's an issue. Same as when cervical cancer served humanity by removing Jade Goodie from the gene pool.

Its not an issue related to security, terrorism, islam etc.

Just a problem in society.

Sorry Jamie but I find it hard to reconcile you criticizing some of the insensitive views Hopkins has when you type that out.

Jade Goodie dying was a tragedy for her children and it's just not a thing to celebrate when any young life is cut short like that.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I suspect that LBC might have legal concerns given her statement that we need 'a final solution' in reference to the Manchester attack.

Odd choice of phrase, or deliberate?

I think referring to the Nazis was a bit strong, even for that mouth piece, but in essence she is right, in as much as people are thredders with the whole IS thing. I think the point she was making (badly, as is her MO) is that enough is a fcking enough.

The way I see it it's simple. Those that have known sympathies to IS, looked at their websites, make arsehoel comments on Lee rigbys facebook page and march through the streets of London supporting IS and the like get banged up simple. They can plot all they like inside, they can't bomb London from inside Parkhurst, and so what if they get even further radicalised, couldnt give less of a fcuk if I tried, they just end up spending their whole life inside wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

This is the UK not pakistan or Syria, we have our rules, If you are lucky enough to live here and take the benefits of living here, then you play by our rules, if not fcuk off.

Simple.

Edited by dannyh (26 May 2017 1.05pm)

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think its certainly cross a line to call for a Final Solution.

As for her views, and those who oppose her views, I don't have a problem with that. Speech isn't free of consequence or protest, and nor should it be. Its part of how democratic process seems to work, groups of people on each side attack and try to shut down political discourse - Its kind of how the game is played.

It's just a phrase. The whole Nazi excuse has allowed the liberals to run out of control in the post war years. Hitler was indeed a c*** for many reasons but ironically his lasting legacy might be to f*** up Western society completely by disallowing all objection to it's demise.

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I suspect that LBC might have legal concerns given her statement that we need 'a final solution' in reference to the Manchester attack.

Odd choice of phrase, or deliberate?

Ill advised and worthy of reproach deliberate or not. But that's the extent of it. So we can't say, 'a final solution' now because of the Nazis?

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 May 2017 1.06pm)

 


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Originally posted by dannyh

Explain to me why that is an ignorant statement and not, (by and large) a factual statement of the knife crime in and around Croydon/London ?

Edited by dannyh (26 May 2017 12.48pm)

It's a factual statement that there is a lot of knife and gun crime by blacks on blacks but to simplify it down to whether your own race matters or not is ignorant.

There's a number of reasons why knives are carried and the one she should be aware of is that so many in a child's immediate area already carry knives. Because she never considers being in somebody else's position she comes across as ignorant.

I'm not saying I never agree with her because I do, but on this she hasn't a clue or considered that a child may pass plenty of kids the same age and above carrying knives just minutes away from their front door.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I suspect that LBC might have legal concerns given her statement that we need 'a final solution' in reference to the Manchester attack.

Odd choice of phrase, or deliberate?

Well, the situation does indeed requires a solution that is permanent rather than the usual platitudes. Given the connotations of the phrase 'final solution', though, it was ill-advised at best.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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