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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 13 Nov 17 8.25pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Utter crap.

As usual, you just select stuff to support your argument.


The housing crisis is caused by market forces and rising population. During the last Labour government, 70% of population rise was due directly to immigration and the rest was largely due to the rise in birth rate caused by immigrants.

It was a Tory government that introduced restrictions on Commonwealth immigration in 1961.

It was Labour's Jack Straw who ended the primary purpose rule as soon as they got in power, that then allowed migrants to bring family members here.

Oh, and let's not forget, it was Blair's Labour government who allowed unrestricted immigration from eastern European countries.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Nov 2017 8.03pm)

No. Incorrect. The Tories signed us up to that before Blair. Labour just happened to be in power when it came to pass. It had to be implemented by 2011 at the very latest.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.16pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

No. Incorrect. The Tories signed us up to that before Blair. Labour just happened to be in power when it came to pass. It had to be implemented by 2011 at the very latest.

In 2004 Blair allowed immediate access to the UK to new EU member states. He had the option of delaying that access for seven years, he did not use that option.

 


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Originally posted by hedgehog50

In 2004 Blair allowed immediate access to the UK to new EU member states. He had the option of delaying that access for seven years, he did not use that option.

He didn't but then again he didn't sign us up to it in the first place. The Right-Wing Conservative Party did.

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

No. Incorrect. The Tories signed us up to that before Blair. Labour just happened to be in power when it came to pass. It had to be implemented by 2011 at the very latest.

It was a Labour government decision to permit the unlimited immigration of eastern European migrants. Even Ed Milliband admitted as much and that it was a mistake.

Only the Tories have put restrictions on immigration.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.49pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

He didn't but then again he didn't sign us up to it in the first place. The Right-Wing Conservative Party did.

Why are you implying that having uncontrolled immigration was a bad thing when you believe that immigration is an unmitigated blessing and that the NHS would collapse without it etc, etc, surely you want it even more it is such a great thing?

Edited by hedgehog50 (13 Nov 2017 9.49pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Nov 17 9.49pm

And there's an unpicked harvest going rotten in the fields.

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.50pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

And there's an unpicked harvest going rotten in the fields.

Oh no! What are we going to do! At least the wildlife will benefit.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It was a Labour government decision to permit the unlimited immigration of eastern European migrants. Even Ed Milliband admitted as much and that it was a mistake.

Only the Tories have put restrictions on immigration.

No. Incorrect again. The Tories signed the permission slip. Labour were obliged to enact it by 2011.

Last years net migration stats - 248,000 in 2016 under a Tory Government. Total in 2009 under Labour 196,000.

 


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Originally posted by hedgehog50

Why are you implying that having uncontrolled immigration was a bad thing when you believe that immigration is an unmitigated blessing and that the NHS would collapse without it etc, etc, surely you want it even more it is such a great thing?

Edited by hedgehog50 (13 Nov 2017 9.49pm)

I am implying nothing. I am merely the messenger of facts.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 17 9.55pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

No. Incorrect again. The Tories signed the permission slip. Labour were obliged to enact it by 2011.

Last years net migration stats - 248,000 in 2016 under a Tory Government. Total in 2009 under Labour 196,000.

But they enacted it in 2004. "Rub their noses in diversity". Again, why are you implying immigration is a bad thing when you think quite the opposite.

Edited by hedgehog50 (13 Nov 2017 9.57pm)

 


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Worried by an unpicked harvest but not by exploited people who harvest it,

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 13 Nov 17 10.00pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I am implying nothing. I am merely the messenger of facts.

Really? Perhaps we should just let your hypocrisy speak for itself.

 


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