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 Hrolf The Ganger  13 Nov 17 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Thing is, I think most people's experience of daily life is that multiculturalism is kind of working. They mix with people of different ethnicities, cultures and religion on a daily basis, and have friends, schoolmates and work colleagues across those spectrums. Mixed cultural marriages and relationships seem more common place. Most people don't really seem to care about peoples race, culture, sexuality, gender, ethnicity etc in the way they used to. Problem is I think the reality is that those 'traditional views' aren't very popular anymore - and parties that hold them don't seem to do too well. UKIP once the referendum was done and dusted, immediately seemed to lose most of its support - because the issue wasn't 'multiculturalism' but EU migration (and they were right about that - the Freedom of Movement was a problem and an issue - not because of migration but because of the scale and impact on society). 'Traditional views' I think just aren't popular enough. None of those factors has any bearing except culture. Culture includes religion, lawlessness and attitudes to others. Things are not rosy in that department. To keep pretending they are is promoting unreality. Of course people interact in the course of daily life. They have to. What you really mean is that the law and the fascism of corporations and media have made it almost impossible for many people to say what they realy think. As far as voting is concerned. No one actually believes that a party other than Tory or Labour can win in a general election. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Nov 2017 6.02pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You and your political ilk, the actual perpetraitors [sic] are a helluvalot more 'guilty' for where we find ourselves today socially and economically than those of the left who may or may not have done exactly the same things 1979-1997 had they been in power like the Right were. How exactly?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 6.14pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
You and your political ilk, the actual perpetraitors [sic] are a helluvalot more 'guilty' for where we find ourselves today socially and economically than those of the left who may or may not have done exactly the same things 1979-1997 had they been in power like the Right were. The Kermit Guide to UK Political History seems to think the years 1997-2010 didn't exist.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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Kermit8  Hevon 13 Nov 17 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How exactly? Housing Act - Thatcher. Should have been called Housing Crisis Enabling Act Deregulation of Banks - Thatcher. That's worked well, hasn't it? And as for Europe -1986 1987 Single European Act 1985+90 1995 Schengen Treaty & Convention 1992 1993 Maastricht Treaty - The 'Union' All signed, sealed and delivered under the right-wing party you supported, voted for and let loose. Thanks. Edited by Kermit8 (13 Nov 2017 7.02pm)
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| Kermit8 Hevon 13 Nov 17 7.03pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The Kermit Guide to UK Political History seems to think the years 1997-2010 didn't exist. See post above for as to why the previous political era has much more to answer for today. Edited by Kermit8 (13 Nov 2017 7.04pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 7.21pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
See post above for as to why the previous political era has much more to answer for today. Edited by Kermit8 (13 Nov 2017 7.04pm) How many illegal wars? Fueling of mass uncontrolled immigration (remember 'rub their noses in diversity' and 'she is just a bigot'), Introduction of tuition fees? Biggest financial meltdown every under their watch - Socialist utopia postponed yet again.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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leifandersonshair  Newport 13 Nov 17 7.41pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
The Kermit Guide to UK Political History seems to think the years 1997-2010 didn't exist. The Hedgehog Guide to UK Political History seems to think the years 1979-1997 didn't exist
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cryrst  The garden of England 13 Nov 17 7.52pm |
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I give up
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 13 Nov 17 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I give up Yes.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Housing Act - Thatcher. Should have been called Housing Crisis Enabling Act Deregulation of Banks - Thatcher. That's worked well, hasn't it? And as for Europe -1986 1987 Single European Act 1985+90 1995 Schengen Treaty & Convention 1992 1993 Maastricht Treaty - The 'Union' All signed, sealed and delivered under the right-wing party you supported, voted for and let loose. Thanks. Edited by Kermit8 (13 Nov 2017 7.02pm) Utter crap. As usual, you just select stuff to support your argument.
It was a Tory government that introduced restrictions on Commonwealth immigration in 1961. It was Labour's Jack Straw who ended the primary purpose rule as soon as they got in power, that then allowed migrants to bring family members here. Oh, and let's not forget, it was Blair's Labour government who allowed unrestricted immigration from eastern European countries.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 13 Nov 17 7.56pm |
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair
The Hedgehog Guide to UK Political History seems to think the years 1979-1997 didn't exist Yes, they did. Government then was not very good either. Governments and the state in general never are. That's why you should always vote the least interventionist party. The least government we can get away with while providing proper essential services, law and order and defence, the better. That's why Brexit is good - a whole strata of needless 'government' done away with.
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Ray in Houston  Houston 13 Nov 17 8.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Nothing changes...probably until the parliament building itself comes under attack. Not that I disagree with you on this point but, for sake of good order, the parliament building has come under attack. [Link]
We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football. |
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