To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davies: "Well he would say that, wouldn't he?"

You see Matov, the enabler is worse.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Their time will come.
The sun sets on all disfigurements eventually.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Jul 2021 11.10am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Just when you think the collusion could not get any worse you read this.

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Words genuinely fail me. Thought I was hardened to all of this, almost cynical really but now...just shaking my head in disbelief and disgust.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

It doesn't matter if your intentions are honorable or not. The result is the same.

This country is going to hell because of deluded old apologists and young naive fools who can't see beyond the curtain.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Jul 2021 12.35pm)

It's your attitude which is at the heart of the problem. I am not, never have and never will, apologise for criminals. All you, and your like, do is engage in a moanfest.

We are where we are. How we got there can be studied to learn the mistakes, but it serves no other purpose at all. I hear next to nothing about what practical solutions are recommended, given all the constraints which exist.

I at least try. In fact, my recommendations are pretty radical and go a great deal further than most others.

For starters, I would ban all religious teaching in every school and ensure that no teaching of any kind is done in schools by religious ministers. I would ensure the history of all major religions is taught to all children, detailing the conflicts and the harm they do. I would emphasise that compassion, tolerance and understanding of others makes for a better society.

That to apply across the board. No faiths given exemption. I would also ban homeschooling and insist that every child attend mainstream school, unless there are compelling reasons why they cannot.

I would require religious centres to be licenced.

Then I would ensure that recordings of every religious address be submitted to a review board. Failure to so would result in the withdrawal of the licence, and any address containing hate speech, or incentivisation to violence, would result in prosecution and jail if needed.

Freedom of speech advocates would hate it, but I have long argued that unrestricted freedom of speech in a democracy is a myth. It has to be exercised by a matching responsibility.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.