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chateauferret Flag 05 Feb 19 3.15pm

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Talksport this morning - Max Rushden saying and Big Sam agreeing - that Barnes got away with one and as it was no different to Wilf's then why did one go and one stay?
Mark Halsey also agreeing.
doesn't make it better but at least proper people are saying that one or the other Ref got it badly wrong!
Also - apparently assessors do not attend anymore - the refs just got told which decisions they got wrong/right - no discussion at all and all done from a TV screen somewhere - bloody stupid!

Both refs got it wrong because both players had been stonewall fouled in the first place FFS.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are having a laugh.

Any player who claps the ref for a card is getting sent off trust me.
I think Wilf's biggest problem is his body language and a short fuse.
Opposition players know they can wind him up
and ref's don't like whiners.
Hopefully, with VAR, a lot of the stuff he has to endure will cut out. That tackle on him outside the box that was given as a corner was unbelievable. That has to stop.

Yep, opposition players know that if they foul him that will wind him up.

 

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Talksport this morning - Max Rushden saying and Big Sam agreeing - that Barnes got away with one and as it was no different to Wilf's then why did one go and one stay?
Mark Halsey also agreeing.
doesn't make it better but at least proper people are saying that one or the other Ref got it badly wrong!
Also - apparently assessors do not attend anymore - the refs just got told which decisions they got wrong/right - no discussion at all and all done from a TV screen somewhere - bloody stupid!


Incorrect . . . We still do!

 


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I hope Wilf just gets a warning about his future conduct and is free to return for the West Ham game.

Hopefully the Ashley Barnes incident will help Wilf.

 

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Originally posted by eagleman13


Incorrect . . . We still do!

But the piece did tell us enough about the process to blow any claims about "forensic analysis" clean out of the water. Of course it's obvious bulls*** anyway because otherwise we would see steady improvement instead of increasing levels of complete bollocks.

 


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Originally posted by chateauferret

But the piece did tell us enough about the process to blow any claims about "forensic analysis" clean out of the water. Of course it's obvious bulls*** anyway because otherwise we would see steady improvement instead of increasing levels of complete bollocks.

There's only one person on the HOL who advocates 'forensic analysis' on referee's & it aint me

In all seriousness, there is a procedure which, we, as assessors have to follow ie guidelines/perameters all drawn up by the FA & various other bodies within the game incl FIFA/UEFA. It aint perfect, but, its all we got ATM.

 


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Originally posted by The Dolphin

I have a lot of sympathy with Wilf even though he was silly doing what he did.
A good ref would also have told him to calm down to ensure he didn't have to send him off especially late in the game but AM seemed to have it in for us all night and having watched the challenges again he was "poor".
Not even sure their player got booked for the Townsend challenge when we scored?

Edited by The Dolphin (01 Feb 2019 7.10am)

Did mariner actually put his arms up to say advantage play on?
I don't think he did and don't think he would've given that as a foul.

 

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I hope Roy goes with him being an ex England boss could help. He should just apologise and explain he lost his cool because of being repeatedly fouled, game footage should endorse that. He could get away with a fine and a suspended ban with a warning to his future conduct

 

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Originally posted by CB

Why wasn't Barnes booked again for screaming at the assistant ref? Was it that the ref hadn't got his card out fast enough to book him once? This was just after he was blown up for "diving"

Edited by CB (02 Feb 2019 11.44pm)

..and it was violent behaviour nothing compared to a calm clap.

 

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Originally posted by eagleman13

There's only one person on the HOL who advocates 'forensic analysis' on referee's & it aint me

In all seriousness, there is a procedure which, we, as assessors have to follow ie guidelines/perameters all drawn up by the FA & various other bodies within the game incl FIFA/UEFA. It aint perfect, but, its all we got ATM.

Interesting.
I thought we did have them as well.
Maybe I misheard what Halsey said this morning

 

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Read the finding on Diego Costa who was charged after a second yellow. In mitigation the Commission heard DC was frustrated and that was an aggravating factor, no bad language. The Commission noted he had no previous, pleaded guilty and had apologised. Got one game ban and 20k fine.

 

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Originally posted by The Dolphin

Interesting.
I thought we did have them as well.
Maybe I misheard what Halsey said this morning

Could he have been referring to VAR? Ive not heard Talkshyte. Mr Halsey is, how shall we say, like any other Ex-ref, who self publicises & appears as 'qualified pundit' on commercial channels/radio stations, not received warmly within the halls of St Georges Park.

 


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