Mrs Lawrence is a awful woman…..Well, I don’t know her personally but I can see the effect she has helped produce on our Police force. The case of her murdered son has had terrible repercussions. It has produced unproven smears that literally can’t be proven yet have been accepted and allowed to stand and it has produced legal devices that operate to this day and have worsened the crime rate.

Institutionalised racism was the verdict from the Macpherson report. A report that slurred the Police yet has zero proof for any of its claims. It was an upper class trashing of public institutions filled with the lower middle and working class…..that none of these toffs would let their kids anywhere near.

The politicians and left hailed the report because it meant they could point fingers and be seen to be caring about ‘racism’. The reality is that this report has damaged the Police and make policing not only harder but increased crime…..for example, it’s through the nonsense claims of racism that pillocks like May criticised ‘stop and search’ and reduced it….leading to increases in crime.

It’s due to cries of racism and the scars that the Police now have that meant that Police were reluctant to investigate rape gangs….indeed leading the rape of thousands of girls over decades now. All the fault of do gooders who thought they were fighting injustice when instead really they were building the road to hell.

I will again make the point that as the mother of a murdered son, she was entitled to the full efforts of the law in providing justice. However, she has been quick to accuse the Police of racism instead of incompetence in handling this case and in general.. Really? So when it’s a white person where the Police screw up it’s not racism but when it’s a black person, it’s racism. It’s weak logic and unproven and quite frankly a slur.

There are always bad apples in every organisation however, the claim that an institution is inherently biased against whole groups is ridiculous and again completely unproven.

The Police have spent untold riches investigating this one case compared to what…..how much did they spend on all the other botched cases…...She gained from unfair exposure and kid gloves purely because of the race card being played by leftists and agendaed politicians. Awful people like her.

She deserved justice but not better treatment to any other family in this situation, and that is what she has received. She is walking about with an OBE and is in the Lords. It’s a frigging joke and as I say, evidence of nothing but a misplaced racial guilt.

I notice you have still not answered my request for clarification on your point concerning PC Blakelock.

Lets look at the difference, both in sentencing and assistance the state has provided and treatment there of between the awful Mrs Lawrence and the wife and family of the murdered Philip Lawrence. It could be also be said of PC Blakelock’s family and many others.

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I think the whole implicit bias industry is built upon shaky ground, and while I think there is something there, I am annoyed and distressed in equal measure to see the extent that it’s been run with. Whole economic industry has been built upon it. Legal decisions handed down citing it and institutions both criticised and changed in part built upon its inherent acceptance as true.

However, there are significant problems with the ‘implicit bias’ narrative and the extent of the claims that it makes. Here is a video from a respected source detailing them. To amplify some of the points made.

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Correlation does not equal causation.
Speculation on the unconscious mind is notoriously difficult to base certainties on.
Associations between words may only be measuring familiar cultural and linguistic affiliations. Demonstrating familirily with one culture over another is not bias in any prerogative sense. It is the natural outcome of most upbringings.
There is no proven intervention that can make any difference to what is claimed to be ‘implicit bias’. Despite this research being over twenty years old. This places doubt onto what the point is in the first place and exactly what it is that is being measured and claimed for.

A whole industry has been built upon these claims....and as I have said, institutions changed and altered based upon its assumptions. They are much less effective and as far as I can tell....all down to misplaced and unfair racial guilt

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2018 3.43pm)

Mapletree
Oh my goodness
When I said you were literal you pulled me up and accused me of abuse.
Now you cherry pick one word from upwards of 200
And want a definition of the context it is used in.
Stirling has written an excellent piece of work and you do that.
How about try your hardest to pick apart the whole article not just a word !!!!
And I do get what you are asking and where you are going with it before I'm deemed as totally thick...
Also can you sort of explain why it is not seen as a quick accusation.
That word was used in the paper the next morning.
Seems a bit lively to me.

The crux of this is that there is an assumption that the Lawrences immediately set out to claim they had been treated poorly due to their and Stephen's race.

Maybe that's true, if they themselves claimed the day after Stephen's death that the Police were racist. I don't remember that. I thought that they became increasingly frustrated with not getting proper answers and then became convinced that was due to race at a later point.

You see, I like to pick out the salient points in an argument, I guess I am just so literal. Like a Beagle

Edited by Mapletree (26 Apr 2018 9.48pm)

Really Maple....I can't be bothered enough to look into just how quickly the issue was turned into a racism claim against the Police by Lawrence. I remember this being a racial issue pretty quickly. What's the point of arguing over what qualifies as 'quickly'?

None of what you say here can be considered proof of anything. Lawrence has made these accusations and none of it is proven and we had a report released...again with nothing provable nor anyone sent to court....even though apparently everyone's a racist.....though apparently they don't know it.

Lawrence was murdered on the 22nd April 1993. The family first complained on the 4 of May 1993 by holding a press conference and saying the Police weren't doing enough and shortly after meeting Nelson Mandela.

I don't know exactly what they said.

That's as much as I know about that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Apr 2018 10.27pm)

Nope.....not in my opinion, but there you go.