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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 26 Jul 18 2.42pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

If only the EU had a more thorough legal system.

how about human rights for the victims of crime ?

defend yourself from a burglar, and get chased out of your home by a gang ?

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 26 Jul 18 7.12pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

If this is the dirty horrible thought process involved within that religion then they need to piss off back to whence they came until their thought process actually contains an element of logic.
I really don't see how a baby can be responsible for an adults reaction.
In a primary sense I mean. I get if someone hurts your children you would do time no doubt.
Most of any right thinking person given an opportunity to put themselves in the position to get time would do.
This religion had some very very dark thoughts involved within it's whole being.
Wake up and smell the coffee this is the year 2018 not 1518.
Which ironically is about where it is bearing in mind it's age and existence.
But now guidance on how life should be conducted is available and all around us. Which wasn't there 500 years ago.
Proper pisses me off with the apologists for the wronguns within it.
Most are ok and not like this but the masses MUST start educating these wronguns or the minority will prevail sadly.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 26 Jul 18 7.48pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

If this is the dirty horrible thought process involved within that religion then they need to piss off back to whence they came until their thought process actually contains an element of logic.
I really don't see how a baby can be responsible for an adults reaction.
In a primary sense I mean. I get if someone hurts your children you would do time no doubt.
Most of any right thinking person given an opportunity to put themselves in the position to get time would do.
This religion had some very very dark thoughts involved within it's whole being.
Wake up and smell the coffee this is the year 2018 not 1518.
Which ironically is about where it is bearing in mind it's age and existence.
But now guidance on how life should be conducted is available and all around us. Which wasn't there 500 years ago.
Proper pisses me off with the apologists for the wronguns within it.
Most are ok and not like this but the masses MUST start educating these wronguns or the minority will prevail sadly.

Which religion?

Why is everyone on this site always using every excuse to accuse Islam of being at the root of all evil

The people that did this were Slovaks. Perhaps they are Slovak Muslims. When I worked there I have to say I didn't see much sign of Muslim extremism. But then I also didn't see or hear of any acid attacks either.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 18 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Which religion?

Why is everyone on this site always using every excuse to accuse Islam of being at the root of all evil

The people that did this were Slovaks. Perhaps they are Slovak Muslims. When I worked there I have to say I didn't see much sign of Muslim extremism. But then I also didn't see or hear of any acid attacks either.

So are all aspects of the Islam religion acceptable?

If no, which ones are not?


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Jul 2018 8.52pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 26 Jul 18 9.21pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So are all aspects of the Islam religion acceptable?

If no, which ones are not?


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Jul 2018 8.52pm)

This isn't a thread about my philosophy

It is about an attack, probably using acid, by what appears to be an angry controlling husband presumably having paid hired thugs to use the most frightening weapon they could conceive.

It also isn't a thread about your perception of Islam

But, for the record, I am not stupid enough to assume that all Islamic creeds are the same. The Sunnis and Shias parted nearly 1,400 years ago. Salafists sprung up in the 19th century.

When you talk of Muslims which are you asking about?

Do you think the Amish, Baptists and Catholics are effectively the same people, they are all Christian.

Your antipathy to Muslims is just about you, not about Islam itself. It results in you picking a fight with 1.8bn people. Good luck with that one. To you no doubt each is the same. Try finding a Muslim and talking to him or her about football, they are just ordinary people.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 18 9.29pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

This isn't a thread about my philosophy

It is about an attack, probably using acid, by what appears to be an angry controlling husband presumably having paid hired thugs to use the most frightening weapon they could conceive.

It also isn't a thread about your perception of Islam

But, for the record, I am not stupid enough to assume that all Islamic creeds are the same. The Sunnis and Shias parted nearly 1,400 years ago. Salafists sprung up in the 19th century.

When you talk of Muslims which are you asking about?

Do you think the Amish, Baptists and Catholics are effectively the same people, they are all Christian.

Your antipathy to Muslims is just about you, not about Islam itself. It results in you picking a fight with 1.8bn people. Good luck with that one. To you no doubt each is the same. Try finding a Muslim and talking to him or her about football, they are just ordinary people.

This kind of response is just side stepping the question.
You criticise those that criticise Islam so it is only reasonable to be clear on what you are defending.

Are there any aspects of Islam that are not acceptable?
If so what are they?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 26 Jul 18 9.34pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This kind of response is just side stepping the question.
You criticise those that criticise Islam so it is only reasonable to be clear on what you are defending.

Are there any aspects of Islam that are not acceptable?
If so what are they?

You notice that the progressives don't have such issues when it comes to referring to what they think is the far right.

But suddenly when it comes to Islam.....out comes the nuance.

Those points are rubbish anyway. What matters is the attitude towards integration, where the allegiance lies and attitudes towards western values.

He can't point to any difference between the socially conservative sects in Islam towards these matters......The reformist sects like Sufism....a branch that is perfectly acceptable...just like secular Islam is.....Well Sufism is a tiny sect in Islam and it's prosecuted across the Islamic world.


Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2018 9.39pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 18 9.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You notice that the progressives don't have such issues when it comes to referring to what they think is the far right.

But suddenly when it comes to Islam.....out comes the nuance.

Those points are rubbish anyway. What matters is the attitude towards integration, where the allegiance lies and attitudes towards western values.

He can't point to any difference between the socially conservative sects in Islam towards these matters......The reformist sects like Sufism....a branch that is perfectly acceptable...just like secular Islam is.....Well Sufism is a tiny sect in Islam and it's prosecuted across the Islamic world.


Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2018 9.39pm)

Defending any or all actions or attitudes by continuing to repeat that not all Muslims are the same is illogical and reductive. It is exactly the same type of reasoning that they accuse others of.
There is no way to unlock the closed mind of the terminally indoctrinated. It's like a disease of the brain.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 27 Jul 18 6.07am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

This isn't a thread about my philosophy

It is about an attack, probably using acid, by what appears to be an angry controlling husband presumably having paid hired thugs to use the most frightening weapon they could conceive.

It also isn't a thread about your perception of Islam

But, for the record, I am not stupid enough to assume that all Islamic creeds are the same. The Sunnis and Shias parted nearly 1,400 years ago. Salafists sprung up in the 19th century.

When you talk of Muslims which are you asking about?

Do you think the Amish, Baptists and Catholics are effectively the same people, they are all Christian.

Your antipathy to Muslims is just about you, not about Islam itself. It results in you picking a fight with 1.8bn people. Good luck with that one. To you no doubt each is the same. Try finding a Muslim and talking to him or her about football, they are just ordinary people.

And here is in your first sentence the problem
Your philosophy is different to your opinion.
Words will fit a sentence to suit an answer which in turn suits a swerve.
Your opinion maple, not your philosophy.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 Jul 18 9.21am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

And here is in your first sentence the problem
Your philosophy is different to your opinion.
Words will fit a sentence to suit an answer which in turn suits a swerve.
Your opinion maple, not your philosophy.

I neither provided my philosophy on religion nor my opinion on Islam. You will find I have never defended Islam, nor given an opinion on it.

The only opinions I provided was that Hrolf seems to have a personal issue with Islam and that I have found Muslims to be ordinary people, not the Devil incarnate. But then I have only worked for prolonged periods in a few Muslim countries, I do not profess to be an expert.

Edited by Mapletree (27 Jul 2018 9.21am)

 

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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 27 Jul 18 9.36am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Roma gypsies originate from India & pakistan, their religion is split evenly between Christian, Muslim & Hindu.

Having seen a few roma camps up close in Slovakia, its a bit of an eye opener as to the utter s*** holes they live in, proper shanty Town stuff.

The thing about the Roma's I've spoken to (as well as the Slovaks who live close to the roma camps) - as a bloc they refuse to integrate, they're committed to holding onto the good & bad within their culture & really don't give a f*** about the law or anyone else.
Of course there are a fair few who are desperate to work & integrate but find it incredibly hard to do so.

Plenty of money is thrown at them each year with very little progress made & this is a huge reason why there is a central European alliance of countries that have told the EU to get f***ed over immigration quotas.
Its already costing them enough.

Mostly back on topic.
Vitriol has made a spectacular comeback in this country & its pretty clear where this cultural enrichment has been revived from.

Import the 3rd world & you're going to get the 3rd world.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Jul 18 11.37am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I neither provided my philosophy on religion nor my opinion on Islam. You will find I have never defended Islam, nor given an opinion on it.

The only opinions I provided was that Hrolf seems to have a personal issue with Islam and that I have found Muslims to be ordinary people, not the Devil incarnate. But then I have only worked for prolonged periods in a few Muslim countries, I do not profess to be an expert.

Edited by Mapletree (27 Jul 2018 9.21am)

What a Weird statement.

Any opinion by anyone is 'personal'.

Your personal issue seems to be that you keep accusing others of demonising Islam but you are never prepared to state your position on the aspects of it that fully deserved to be criticised by anyone who wishes to uphold Western values or even basic human rights.
To say I know lots of Muslims who are nice is completely beside the point and slightly naive.

 

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