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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 26 Jul 18 8.34pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by europalace


Well, using expletives explains very much. Thanks.

Does a wall of facts offend your tender sensibilities?

 


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Originally posted by europalace

Tell that to the NHS where thousands of qualified staff who are EU citizens have already left. I hope you staying fit and healthy.

Evidence? As I said in a previous post, EU Citizens are not counted in and out. So presumably you are getting your facts from the remain campaign or your friends in Brussels

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 26 Jul 18 8.41pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

A referendum is also not a binding decision so the government have no obligation to follow through with Brexit.

Brexit is a turning in to a f***ing disaster, whatever you voted back then we can all agree on that.

People claiming others are sore losers because they want to avoid the catastrophic economic fallout that seems to be imminent is farcical.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and claiming Brexit means Brexit and let’s crack on despite the consequences is short sighted and naive.

Not everyone voted for the same kind of Brexit, claiming people knew what they voted for is b*llolcks, because we still have no f*cking clue what Brexit we are going to get. If a hard border between ROI and NI is going to happen, that is reason enough to stop Brexit.

So if there's a "people's vote" and it doesn't go Remain's way, will you accept that or should we keep voting until we get the result the Remain camp (and the EU) want?

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Jul 18 8.47pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

A referendum is also not a binding decision so the government have no obligation to follow through with Brexit.

Brexit is a turning in to a f***ing disaster, whatever you voted back then we can all agree on that.

People claiming others are sore losers because they want to avoid the catastrophic economic fallout that seems to be imminent is farcical.

Sticking your fingers in your ears and claiming Brexit means Brexit and let’s crack on despite the consequences is short sighted and naive.

Not everyone voted for the same kind of Brexit, claiming people knew what they voted for is b*llolcks, because we still have no f*cking clue what Brexit we are going to get. If a hard border between ROI and NI is going to happen, that is reason enough to stop Brexit.

I think people voted for Brexit ie BREXIT. I knew exactly what I was voting for and would do the same again. How was the Irish border controlled before EU membership? This is a red herring that can be easily overcome if there was a political will rather than a will to stop a democratic decision

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 18 8.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

The big difference is that when people voted for the referendum in 2016, they had no idea what an exit from the EU would look like. They imagined it but didn't know anything like the information they have now. Further more, after October when big decisions will be made by both the EU and UK on the real direction of the negotiations, British citizens will be in a far, far more informed position to make such a decision. Virtually no one even contemplated what the NI issues would be in 2016 and Farage & Johnson sneakily avoided that hot potato. Now people understand the nuances of that issue and also from the EU's perspective. So, regularly quoting 'how many referendums do we need' is just spreading spurious FUD.

So, to answer your question, only 1 referendum is needed and that's the one AFTER people have a good idea of the issues involved through the negotiations of BOTH parties, both the UK & EU. That time is soon approaching. The one that occurred in 2016 should simply be put down to an administrative error and lacking in any concrete information for the electorate to make any kind of informed decision.

Edited by europalace (26 Jul 2018 7.54pm)

So if remain lose that one, will remainers want another or will they just finally f*** off and shut up.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 26 Jul 18 9.19pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So if remain lose that one, will remainers want another or will they just finally f*** off and shut up.

The whole thing is a f*cking shambles. All those that wanted it have jumped ship when the detail got too hard. You’ve got a Prime Minister who didn’t want it in the first place desperately trying to cling on to her job, a bespactled trouble maker on the sidelines talking a lot but not really saying anything, a weak opposition leader who secretly wants all this but won’t say it, and anyone with a modicum of sense and rationality somewhere in between as How Things Actually Work are vilified as ‘experts’ and the ‘elite’ not to be trusted.

It’s absolutely f*cking nuts.

 

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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

So if there's a "people's vote" and it doesn't go Remain's way, will you accept that or should we keep voting until we get the result the Remain camp (and the EU) want?

Exactly like they did in Denmark, Holland & Ireland

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 18 9.24pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

The whole thing is a f*cking shambles. All those that wanted it have jumped ship when the detail got too hard. You’ve got a Prime Minister who didn’t want it in the first place desperately trying to cling on to her job, a bespactled trouble maker on the sidelines talking a lot but not really saying anything, a weak opposition leader who secretly wants all this but won’t say it, and anyone with a modicum of sense and rationality somewhere in between as How Things Actually Work are vilified as ‘experts’ and the ‘elite’ not to be trusted.

It’s absolutely f*cking nuts.


It has become farcical but what is most sickening is to see Remains trying every feeble argument and tactic they can muster to overturn the result.

The idea that another referendum would produce an honest, well informed basis on which to vote is hilarious.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 26 Jul 18 9.34pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


It has become farcical but what is most sickening is to see Remains trying every feeble argument and tactic they can muster to overturn the result.

The idea that another referendum would produce an honest, well informed basis on which to vote is hilarious.

Everyone is far more informed now it’s getting down to the detail.

If there was a second vote (which, on balance, I don’t think I do actually want) I think it would hold a lot more value than the first one.

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Everyone is far more informed now it’s getting down to the detail.

If there was a second vote (which, on balance, I don’t think I do actually want) I think it would hold a lot more value than the first one.

You assume that most people understand the details, which they don't.
You also assume that each side will be honest, which they won't.
The only difference is that we are now in the messy part of the process which has been made more difficult by Remainers trying to scupper it and those knobs in Europe.
All the more reason to ignore their crap and push on.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You assume that most people understand the details, which they don't.
You also assume that each side will be honest, which they won't.
The only difference is that we are now in the messy part of the process which has been made more difficult by Remainers trying to scupper it and those knobs in Europe.
All the more reason to ignore their crap and push on.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

Everyone is far more informed now it’s getting down to the detail.

If there was a second vote (which, on balance, I don’t think I do actually want) I think it would hold a lot more value than the first one.

If there was to be a second vote I would guess that quite a few Brexiteers would change their vote to "remain" not because they had changed their views on whether or not they wished to remain in the EC but on the basis that we have p1ss poor negotiators who are happy to lay down and let M Barnier trample all over them

 

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