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PZ Eagle Penzance 30 Sep 18 11.18am
Originally posted by BarEagle There is nothing hypothetical about it. Virtually everybody agrees the atmosphere has dropped dramatically and negatively since their disappearance. Go on, swallow, and admit you agree. I refer to my previous answer. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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Penzance 30 Sep 18 11.18am

Originally posted by BarEagle

There is nothing hypothetical about it. Virtually everybody agrees the atmosphere has dropped dramatically and negatively since their disappearance.

Go on, swallow, and admit you agree.

I refer to my previous answer.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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BarEagle Monmouth 30 Sep 18 3.00pm
Originally posted by PZ Eagle I refer to my previous answer. You would make a great slippery politician. They are evasive and don’t answer simple questions either
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Monmouth 30 Sep 18 3.00pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

I refer to my previous answer.

You would make a great slippery politician. They are evasive and don’t answer simple questions either

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 30 Sep 18 3.23pm
I wasn"t bothered about the hf either way when they started, or when i first noticed them, thought the all black thing was a bit crap, bit like the man united men in black thing!, but i was swayed by their performance at stamford bridge season before last, and the home support complaining that the atmosphere put there players off! This plus the best fa cup final display has turned my opinion on them, and maybe another fine performance at the bridge next time out, a flash hf reunited to show us what they can achieve, would be absolutely fantastic!
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Any european country i fancy! 30 Sep 18 3.23pm

I wasn"t bothered about the hf either way when they started, or when i first noticed them, thought the all black thing was a bit crap, bit like the man united men in black thing!, but i was swayed by their performance at stamford bridge season before last, and the home support complaining that the atmosphere put there players off! This plus the best fa cup final display has turned my opinion on them, and maybe another fine performance at the bridge next time out, a flash hf reunited to show us what they can achieve, would be absolutely fantastic!

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Mstrobez 30 Sep 18 4.28pm
Originally posted by npn Interestingly, I think they did a display which said "no matter what". It turned out the small print was "unless we don't get our own way" . For me, I will enjoy having the atmosphere back, but their reputation as supporters of the club first and foremost is shattered, and they will now effectively be hired cheerleaders. Very good post. People have been badmouthing the HF for years and I’ve never done anything but support them and their efforts. This whole saga has put them down in my estimations tenfold. And they certainly haven’t acted in a “fanatical” way. Imagine everyone else going on strike everytime they don’t like a clubs defision. The atmosphere would be effected a whole lot more negatively than what we’ve seen at the start of this season. We're the Arthur over ere!
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30 Sep 18 4.28pm

Originally posted by npn

Interestingly, I think they did a display which said "no matter what". It turned out the small print was "unless we don't get our own way" . For me, I will enjoy having the atmosphere back, but their reputation as supporters of the club first and foremost is shattered, and they will now effectively be hired cheerleaders.

Very good post.

People have been badmouthing the HF for years and I’ve never done anything but support them and their efforts.

This whole saga has put them down in my estimations tenfold. And they certainly haven’t acted in a “fanatical” way. Imagine everyone else going on strike everytime they don’t like a clubs defision.

The atmosphere would be effected a whole lot more negatively than what we’ve seen at the start of this season.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Mstrobez 30 Sep 18 5.03pm
I’m starting a boycott if any fellow die hard fans wanna join in. Not coming to any games or singing loudly until Max Meyer is relocated from the bench onto the pitch. Will have brochures and statements ready shortly. Twitter storm to follow. We're the Arthur over ere!
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30 Sep 18 5.03pm

I’m starting a boycott if any fellow die hard fans wanna join in. Not coming to any games or singing loudly until Max Meyer is relocated from the bench onto the pitch. Will have brochures and statements ready shortly. Twitter storm to follow.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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est1905 30 Sep 18 5.55pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez I’m starting a boycott if any fellow die hard fans wanna join in. Not coming to any games or singing loudly until Max Meyer is relocated from the bench onto the pitch. Will have brochures and statements ready shortly. Twitter storm to follow. Good idea, It should work too as if you stop supporting the club you get your own way with our chairman!
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est1905

30 Sep 18 5.55pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Good idea, It should work too as if you stop supporting the club you get your own way with our chairman!

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est1905 30 Sep 18 6.05pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 So you think some one who buys a paper ticket now and again should bd treated ghe sand as someone who buys a season ticket every year? OK Well you cant really write but from guessing what you are trying to ask I would say only that I have known a fan that bought a paper ticket each week on the door because he worked Saturday mornings and was never 100% certain he would make the game. This was every week so he didn't see the sense in buying a season ticket if there was a chance it would rarely get used. As it turned out he ended up missing only 2 or 3 games all season so the following year took a chance and bought a season ticket. Because of the cost of buying 23 paper tickets (we were in the Championship at the time) compared to a season ticket that year it could be argued he was more of a fan because he was quite happy to pay more over the course of the year than a season ticket holder did. So in answer to your naive question, yes, of course it is highly possible that a fan that buys a ticket on the day, for all sorts of reasons can feasibly be every bit as much of a fan as a season ticket holder. But then again, those with rational brains that are grown ups probably wouldn't need all that explaining.
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30 Sep 18 6.05pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

So you think some one who buys a paper ticket now and again should bd treated ghe sand as someone who buys a season ticket every year? OK

Well you cant really write but from guessing what you are trying to ask I would say only that I have known a fan that bought a paper ticket each week on the door because he worked Saturday mornings and was never 100% certain he would make the game. This was every week so he didn't see the sense in buying a season ticket if there was a chance it would rarely get used.
As it turned out he ended up missing only 2 or 3 games all season so the following year took a chance and bought a season ticket. Because of the cost of buying 23 paper tickets (we were in the Championship at the time) compared to a season ticket that year it could be argued he was more of a fan because he was quite happy to pay more over the course of the year than a season ticket holder did.
So in answer to your naive question, yes, of course it is highly possible that a fan that buys a ticket on the day, for all sorts of reasons can feasibly be every bit as much of a fan as a season ticket holder.
But then again, those with rational brains that are grown ups probably wouldn't need all that explaining.

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est1905 30 Sep 18 6.12pm
Originally posted by Mstrobez Very good post. People have been badmouthing the HF for years and I’ve never done anything but support them and their efforts. This whole saga has put them down in my estimations tenfold. And they certainly haven’t acted in a “fanatical” way. Imagine everyone else going on strike everytime they don’t like a clubs defision. The atmosphere would be effected a whole lot more negatively than what we’ve seen at the start of this season. A mate of mine who supports Arsenal sarcastically claimed he and a few Emirates drinking pals were going to boycott home games until they were relocated down behind the goal because he and his mates claime to sing far more than those currently occupying that area. Not that I'd want to defend the HF but I had no answer to this. Other clubs see whats going on and they are laughing at Parish. He can hardly blame them either.
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est1905

30 Sep 18 6.12pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Very good post.

People have been badmouthing the HF for years and I’ve never done anything but support them and their efforts.

The atmosphere would be effected a whole lot more negatively than what we’ve seen at the start of this season.

A mate of mine who supports Arsenal sarcastically claimed he and a few Emirates drinking pals were going to boycott home games until they were relocated down behind the goal because he and his mates claime to sing far more than those currently occupying that area. Not that I'd want to defend the HF but I had no answer to this.
Other clubs see whats going on and they are laughing at Parish. He can hardly blame them either.

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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Sep 18 7.14pm
Originally posted by bicycle repair man Originally the HF were great fun,a friendly bunch who produced lots of noise with their unique songs which other clubs have copied. But now they're starting to believe their over inflated image,and imagine they are a superior breed of Palace supporter. Of course they are deluded.Parish has caved in to their demands because he wants the quiet life,and we're nearly always sold out anyway,so he doesn't care who sits or stands where. Quite frankly this recent spat has made Palace a laughing stock among opposing fans,and the HF have become a total embarrassment. Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am) You are obviously incapable of seeing the bigger picture. Personally, I'm more interested in staying up this season. With our criminal lack of investment in the squad over the last two windows, we are currently going backward. At least the chairman has got one thing right. The '12th man' will return.
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30 Sep 18 7.14pm

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Originally posted by bicycle repair man

Originally the HF were great fun,a friendly bunch who produced lots of noise with their unique songs which other clubs have copied.
But now they're starting to believe their over inflated image,and imagine they are a superior breed of Palace supporter.
Of course they are deluded.Parish has caved in to their demands because he wants the quiet life,and we're nearly always sold out anyway,so he doesn't care who sits or stands where.
Quite frankly this recent spat has made Palace a laughing stock among opposing fans,and the HF have become a total embarrassment.

Edited by bicycle repair man (30 Sep 2018 12.38am)

You are obviously incapable of seeing the bigger picture.
Personally, I'm more interested in staying up this season. With our criminal lack of investment in the squad over the last two windows, we are currently going backward. At least the chairman has got one thing right. The '12th man' will return.

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becky over the moon 30 Sep 18 7.57pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You are obviously incapable of seeing the bigger picture. Personally, I'm more interested in staying up this season. With our criminal lack of investment in the squad over the last two windows, we are currently going backward. At least the chairman has got one thing right. The '12th man' will return. As the so-called 12th man will not be there until NEXT season, you'd better start gargling now because the singing this season is down to you..... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 30 Sep 18 7.57pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are obviously incapable of seeing the bigger picture.
Personally, I'm more interested in staying up this season. With our criminal lack of investment in the squad over the last two windows, we are currently going backward. At least the chairman has got one thing right. The '12th man' will return.

As the so-called 12th man will not be there until NEXT season, you'd better start gargling now because the singing this season is down to you.....

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Sep 18 8.51pm
Originally posted by becky As the so-called 12th man will not be there until NEXT season, you'd better start gargling now because the singing this season is down to you..... I shall compile a list of riders.
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Hrolf The Ganger

30 Sep 18 8.51pm

Originally posted by becky

As the so-called 12th man will not be there until NEXT season, you'd better start gargling now because the singing this season is down to you.....

I shall compile a list of riders.

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Aolcpfc Finchley, London 30 Sep 18 9.56pm
Originally posted by PZ Eagle As for your ridiculous assertion that without the HF we would have been relegated it's actually just an assumption as you cannot back it up with facts. I prefer to think the reasons we haven't been relegated are down to Tony Pullis, Alan Pardew in his early tenure, Sam Allardyce and then Roy Hodgson who all got the team playing well enough to stay up. It's not that long ago that we only stayed up only because we were (almost) only winning when on the road. There were long, long spells when we hardly ever won at home. So the HF's impact at home was clearly not enough to win us games. Maybe on the road they were a factor, but that's a different matter from the argument here. They used to create a fantastic atmosphere which I miss greatly.
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Finchley, London 30 Sep 18 9.56pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

As for your ridiculous assertion that without the HF we would have been relegated it's actually just an assumption as you cannot back it up with facts. I prefer to think the reasons we haven't been relegated are down to Tony Pullis, Alan Pardew in his early tenure, Sam Allardyce and then Roy Hodgson who all got the team playing well enough to stay up.

It's not that long ago that we only stayed up only because we were (almost) only winning when on the road. There were long, long spells when we hardly ever won at home.

So the HF's impact at home was clearly not enough to win us games. Maybe on the road they were a factor, but that's a different matter from the argument here.

They used to create a fantastic atmosphere which I miss greatly.

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