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Originally posted by Mapletree

I have not commented on the politics of this and feel I should

It is simply dreadful

I don't like that the judiciary is politicised. The way the civil service and judiciary are independent in the UK is something that in my opinion makes our society strong.


Oh my god.....When I read that I nearly fell off the chair.

That's like a cyclops level of myopia.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Oh my god.....When I read that I nearly fell off the chair.

That's like a cyclops level of myopia.

The independence of judges in the UK is protected in several ways:
Judges are independent of the executive and the legislature - and vice versa - and do not get involved in political debate. Apart from modern rules relating to age and health, judges of the High Court and above cannot be removed from office without an address passed by both Houses of Parliament. And judges are almost entirely immune from the risk of being sued or prosecuted for what they do in their capacity as a judge.

The Constitutional Reform Act 2005, which came into force in April 2006, considerably modified the role of the Lord Chancellor and in so doing, strengthened the independence of the Judiciary.

In April 2006 a new Judicial Appointments Commission began to operate. This ended the Lord Chancellor's position as head of the judiciary (courts of law in England and Wales) and power to appoint judges. And in July of that year, members of the House of Lords elected their first Lord Speaker. This new role assumed some of the Lord Chancellor's responsibilities, such as chairing debates in the Lords' chamber and speaking for the House on ceremonial occasions.

The Ministry of Justice was created in May 2007; it has responsibility for courts, prisons, probation and constitutional affairs. The present Lord Chancellor combines his role with that of Secretary of State for Justice.

The judicial function of Parliament ended in 2009, when an independent UK Supreme Court was established. The court assumed the jurisdiction of the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords and the devolution jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. It is an independent institution, presided over by twelve independently appointed judges, known as Justices of the Supreme Court.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

The independence of judges in the UK is protected in several ways:
Judges are independent of the executive and the legislature - and vice versa - and do not get involved in political debate. Apart from modern rules relating to age and health, judges of the High Court and above cannot be removed from office without an address passed by both Houses of Parliament. And judges are almost entirely immune from the risk of being sued or prosecuted for what they do in their capacity as a judge.

The Constitutional Reform Act 2005, which came into force in April 2006, considerably modified the role of the Lord Chancellor and in so doing, strengthened the independence of the Judiciary.

In April 2006 a new Judicial Appointments Commission began to operate. This ended the Lord Chancellor's position as head of the judiciary (courts of law in England and Wales) and power to appoint judges. And in July of that year, members of the House of Lords elected their first Lord Speaker. This new role assumed some of the Lord Chancellor's responsibilities, such as chairing debates in the Lords' chamber and speaking for the House on ceremonial occasions.

The Ministry of Justice was created in May 2007; it has responsibility for courts, prisons, probation and constitutional affairs. The present Lord Chancellor combines his role with that of Secretary of State for Justice.

The judicial function of Parliament ended in 2009, when an independent UK Supreme Court was established. The court assumed the jurisdiction of the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords and the devolution jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. It is an independent institution, presided over by twelve independently appointed judges, known as Justices of the Supreme Court.

The independence of judges is protected here, as it is in the US.

However, it is complete nonsense to suggest that our judges aren't politicised. I know of no system that could ensure that.

They are an elite who near exclusively come from the same part of society.


Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2018 5.15pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Are you speaking for all women there?

Or are you speaking out of your probable sexual organ?

Do Not Question DanH's organ.....Cucking has verified it.

Just saying

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The independence of judges is protected here, as it is in the US.

However, it is complete nonsense to suggest that our judges aren't politicised. I know of no system that could ensure that.

They are an elite who near exclusively come from the same part of society.


Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Sep 2018 5.15pm)

Oh, of course

I touched on your Stephen Yaxley Lennon agenda.

Wasn't particularly my intention, I was trying to be serious. Shame you are always so reductionist

 

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You have to wonder what she is trying to achieve?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 28 Sep 18 5.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Oh, of course

I touched on your Stephen Yaxley Lennon agenda.

Wasn't particularly my intention, I was trying to be serious. Shame you are always so reductionist


If it's reductionist to cut through the waffle you wrote then so be it.

Oh and seeing as you were so concerned about spelling the other day, you misspelt 'serious' there. You meant to write 'ridiculous'.

As for touching a nerve over the Robinson situation...yep you're damn right. That plain as day exposures what complete waffle you were talking.

Of course judges are political.....and our judges are no more protected from politicians than US ones are.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 28 Sep 18 5.48pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Oh and seeing as you were so concerned about spelling the other day, you misspelt 'serious' there. You meant to write 'ridiculous'.

"imagines"

 


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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I agree. But if someone has been genuinely assaulted but has a case of mistaken identity over three decades later, then what do you do?

Then there have been many cases of women who made up allegations and nothing has happened to them. The DJ Dr Fox is one example, his ex-wife was telling me about the trial when I met her last year.

It doesn't help anyone that she cannot identify the exact date or location. She cannot prove it happened but neither can the judge clear his name because he cannot provide an alibi for an unknown date.

 


One more point

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 28 Sep 18 5.51pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle


Then there have been many cases of women who made up allegations and nothing has happened to them. The DJ Dr Fox is one example, his ex-wife was telling me about the trial when I met her last year.

Pillow Talk?

Perhaps a new forum?

 


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Originally posted by pefwin

"imagines"


imagine
(&#618;&#712;męd&#658;&#618;n)
vb
1. (when tr, may take a clause as object) to form a mental image of
2. (when tr, may take a clause as object) to think, believe, or guess
3. (tr; takes a clause as object) to suppose; assume: I imagine he'll come.
4. (tr; takes a clause as object) to believe or assume without foundation: he imagines he knows the whole story.

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 28 Sep 18 6.03pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


imagine
(&#618;&#712;męd&#658;&#618;n)
vb
1. (when tr, may take a clause as object) to form a mental image of
2. (when tr, may take a clause as object) to think, believe, or guess
3. (tr; takes a clause as object) to suppose; assume: I imagine he'll come.
4. (tr; takes a clause as object) to believe or assume without foundation: he imagines he knows the whole story.

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but the tense, grammar boy, I thinking you were looking for the past tense.

As an ex-teacher you should know, half marks for half an answer, but detention for obvious dictionary plagiarism.

 


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