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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Dec 18 9.18am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ok, you will now be the second person I ask to explain why there is a hierarchy in abuse. Why is it more important to be concerned with racial abuse over say abuse of someone considered to be ugly for example?

That happens in newspapers all the time....value judgements happen all the time and are part of life. Why should I consider this form more important than another?

Are you seriously comparing racially abusing someone to calling someone ugly? My word.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

I think you meant to say meted out.

Oh I love this site.


 


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Originally posted by DanH

Are you seriously comparing racially abusing someone to calling someone ugly? My word.

Yes, explain why there is a hierarchy in your mind.

Notice, how you use the word 'abuse' for one and not the other.


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Dec 2018 9.27am)

 


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Tawny Flag Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.29am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ok, you will now be the second person I ask to explain why there is a hierarchy in abuse. Why is it more important to be concerned with racial abuse over say abuse of someone considered to be ugly for example?

That happens in newspapers all the time....value judgements happen all the time and are part of life. Why should I consider this form more important than another?

Because of the weight it holds in society. Calling someone a wally is a bit different from going up to someone and telling them that their Mum is a c*** or that they look like a pedo. These are all just abuse and insults, but not all insults are identical because they each carry pieces of how we view ourselves as a society within them.

You are simply looking for reasons why a man screaming "black c*unt" at a player a football match doesn't matter that much on account that you're a man perpetually on the run from the black boys on the council estate, viewing anyone different as someone who inherently deserves a lack of compassion because you yourself clearly feel that you didn't receive it. Ironically instead of appreciating the "minority experience" you had, you've just cowered into a majority "my kids, my country" stance which ironically is the same stance that those black kids had, a "might is right". Abused becomes abuser.

Others aren't responsible for your own hangups and going down some kind of genetics route or arguing as to why you think "black c*unt" is no different from calling someone a tosspot is a reflection of your own burnt out values rather than what should or should not be acceptable at a game. Change the record.

Edited by Tawny (12 Dec 2018 9.30am)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Dec 18 9.29am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

It's no real surprise that one tone members like hrolf who permanently have a colour chart in one hand and those with an interest or hierarchy in racial genetic differences don't really think someone being called a black c*nt matters a great deal. It's clear from the clip that this is what he said and he was right to be banned from for life. This idea that racial abuse is somehow no different from calling someone a tosser is of course more mud minded tosh.

Remarkable how you know me so well and yet only joined two days ago.
Has it been confirmed that anyone was called Black anything? Last time I looked it hadn't. But that didn't stop SKY and the likes of you 'Tawny' launching into a full meltdown.
You and Steve1984 are so similar and joined around the same time. I get you mixed up. Maybe someone can check your IP addresses so no one is confused.

 

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Tawny Flag Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.32am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Remarkable how you know me so well and yet only joined two days ago.
Has it been confirmed that anyone was called Black anything? Last time I looked it hadn't. But that didn't stop SKY and the likes of you 'Tawny' launching into a full meltdown.
You and Steve1984 are so similar and joined around the same time. I get you mixed up. Maybe someone can check your IP addresses so no one is confused.

Is that you Gussett?

You can watch the video if you wish to and clearly see the words he's mouthing. That's what people tend to do if they want to talk about somehting from an ediucated standpoint. You clearly haven't bothered as to you this is an opportunity rather than a concern.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Dec 18 9.34am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

Because of the weight it holds in society. Calling someone a wally is a bit different from going up to someone and telling them that their Mum is a c*** or that they look like a pedo. These are all just abuse and insults, but not all insults are identical because they each carry pieces of how we view ourselves as a society within them.

You are simply looking for reasons why a man screaming "black c*unt" at a player a football match doesn't matter that much on account that you're a man perpetually on the run from the black boys on the council estate, viewing anyone different as someone who inherently deserves a lack of compassion because you yourself clearly feel that you didn't receive it. Ironically instead of appreciating the "minority experience" you had, you've just cowered into a majority "my kids, my country" stance which ironically is the same stance that those black kids had, a "might is right". Abused becomes abuser.

Not everyone is responsible for your own mental hangups and going down some kind of genetics route or arguing as to why you think "black c*unt" is no different from calling someone a tosspot is a reflection of your own burnt out values rather than what should or should not be acceptable at a game. Change the record.

Edited by Tawny (12 Dec 2018 9.30am)

Is anyone condoning racist behaviour? I don't think so.
It is just a matter of keeping some perspective.
Oh and there actually being some racism before everyone overreacts.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.35am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Remarkable how you know me so well and yet only joined two days ago.
Has it been confirmed that anyone was called Black anything? Last time I looked it hadn't. But that didn't stop SKY and the likes of you 'Tawny' launching into a full meltdown.
You and Steve1984 are so similar and joined around the same time. I get you mixed up. Maybe someone can check your IP addresses so no one is confused.

You mean like they do with you on the BBS Judge?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Dec 18 9.37am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Tawny

Is that you Gussett?

You can watch the video if you wish to and clearly see the words he's mouthing. That's what people tend to do if they want to talk about somehting from an ediucated standpoint. You clearly haven't bothered as to you this is an opportunity rather than a concern.

I'm not a lip reader but I will accept the evidence as presented.
What I would definitely do is wait until it was confirmed before I started a week long racism debate. SKY didn't bother to wait. They had a schedule to fill.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Dec 18 9.39am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You mean like they do with you on the BBS Judge?

I'm not inclined to respond to your posts now. You might have a snowflake meltdown.

I know how sensitive you can get when it suits you.

 

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Tawny Flag Croydon 12 Dec 18 9.43am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not inclined to respond to your posts now. You might have a snowflake meltdown.

I know how sensitive you can get when it suits you.

But you will anyway.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Dec 18 9.43am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not a lip reader but I will accept the evidence as presented.
What I would definitely do is wait until it was confirmed before I started a week long racism debate. SKY didn't bother to wait. They had a schedule to fill.

I'll try again. The debate is not about the abuse. The debate is about the media portrayal of Raheem Sterling, and black players in general. His statement has forced this debate on them, and us, and it's about time.

 

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