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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 15 Mar 19 6.57pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

As top enemies the shooter has identified :
Angela Merkel

Erdogan

Sadiq Khan


So we can guess all his other ideas.

Pretty much


Edited by dollardays (15 Mar 2019 7.00pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag Wisbech, England 15 Mar 19 6.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As for the weak minded who wish to do the 'guilt by association' fallacy.

Hitler believed in national health care and free national day care for children and implemented it....hence if you believe in similar concepts.....you are like Hitler.

Hitler believed in high tax for high earners and implemented it.....So if you believe in the same....you are like Hitler.

You know...this is the socialism part of national socialism that nobody gets taught.

Hitler was a vegetarian......hence if you are a vegetarian you're like Hitler.

Hitler had a moustache
Stalin had a moustache
Hitler and Stalin were evil
Hence moustaches are evil


Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2019 6.59pm)

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 15 Mar 19 6.59pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

There was a piece on the news about how the recommendation engine and algorithm on Youtube funnels people into seeing suggested content that's a more radical version of what they've previously viewed. More exciting versions over time just based on how the algorithm works to keep people on the site. That's fine with most content, with examples of people looking at jogging videos being presented with ultra marathon clips over time. Clearly with religious ideology, identity politics and the like though it can result in a gradual detachment from wider society, leading to people splintering off in various directions.

Of course if we do get a hold on mass immigration, I'm of the belief that will help somewhat. I don't think we need yet more world views and fragmentation in the mix at this time.

The online problem though is very real. If anything many Muslim extremists, right wing extremists, left wing, whatever , are more specifically online extremists, internet extremists. People dissatisfied with life looking for answers in the wrong places. They have latched onto one thread of what it is to be a human being, whether religious, racial, black or white, and an area they're emotionally attached to has become something much more amplified and central, then sometimes more dangerous. It was very much the modus operandi that ISIS relied on to push their message to others around the world.

It's true of this guy too. The racial separatist manifesto, the links provided to his views, the invitation on 8chan to tune in, the live streaming of the actual killings. It was all with a view of spreading an agenda and being seen committing these acts. Would he honestly have bothered without the Internet? Would he hold the same views he does with this level of intensity?

This guy has dug his own grave and tragically others too, but a look at these algorithms and what they present is a piece of the puzzle even if it does sound trivial on the surface. Not censorship of any kind, just not a ramped up, one tone, 'your view on steroids' auto playlist that descends to places detached from decency, community and commonality. At best it leads to people who spend every waking hour imagining their identity is the only one under attack, while simultaneously, routinely and needlessly attacking the identities of others to maintain the spell. At worst? God only knows.

Edited by dollardays (15 Mar 2019 7.33pm)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Mar 19 7.03pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Is the mass media coverage of this atrocity likely to be similar to other terrorist acts ?

Keep calm, keep strong, move on ,light a candle , we are all bloodied but unbowed .


Or will the coverage be different ?

 


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View laddo's Profile laddo Flag london 15 Mar 19 7.07pm Send a Private Message to laddo Add laddo as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

My sympathy isn't disingenuous. What this guy did was inhuman and monstrous and that's how I feel about it.

I presume you're English, but believe me I certainly have more respect for Muslims than I have for people like you......So you don't really know what you're talking about.


You openly nosh off tommy Robinson in this forum who peddles hate towards the Muslim community. Donít play the ĎI have respect for muslimsí bulls*it. Thereís countless evidence you donít. A five minute trawl through this website confirms this, alongside a handful of other vile hate-infested losers.

Would you murder 49 innocent people? Highly doubtful. Did the man who did so today share your warped views on society? Absolutely. You far-right, Tommy Robinson boot boys are basically Isis under another flag. Letís call it. Proper scum.

Edited by laddo (15 Mar 2019 7.07pm)

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Is the mass media coverage of this atrocity likely to be similar to other terrorist acts ?

Keep calm, keep strong, move on ,light a candle , we are all bloodied but unbowed .


Or will the coverage be different ?


It is and will be the usual long winded excuses for censorship from the usual self absorbed wind bags.

Whether they succeed in that or not, it'll make not a jot of difference. These issues are deep rooted and we are on a cycle of violence that was predictable a long time ago.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

As for the weak minded who wish to do the 'guilt by association' fallacy.

Hitler believed in national health care and free national day care for children and implemented it....hence if you believe in similar concepts.....you are like Hitler.

Hitler believed in high tax for high earners and implemented it.....So if you believe in the same....you are like Hitler.

You know...this is the socialism part of national socialism that nobody gets taught.

Hitler was a vegetarian......hence if you are a vegetarian you're like Hitler.

Hitler had a moustache
Stalin had a moustache
Hitler and Stalin were evil
Hence moustaches are evil

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Mar 2019 6.59pm)


Yes, yes that's all very interesting, but how many balls did he have?

 


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Originally posted by laddo

You openly nosh off tommy Robinson in this forum who peddles hate towards the Muslim community. Donít play the ĎI have respect for muslimsí bulls*it. Thereís countless evidence you donít. A five minute trawl through this website confirms this, alongside a handful of other vile hate-infested losers.

Would you murder 49 innocent people? Highly doubtful. Did the man who did so today share your warped views on society? Absolutely. You far-right, Tommy Robinson boot boys are basically Isis under another flag. Letís call it. Proper scum.

Edited by laddo (15 Mar 2019 7.07pm)

I've answered these points. Carry on with your detesting fantasies if you want to. I'm tired to replying to you.

 

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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Yes, yes that's all very interesting, but how many balls did he have?

Not enough to juggle with.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've answered these points. Carry on with your detesting fantasies if you want to. I'm tired to replying to you.

Nothing to answer. We know what you are and what you stand for. You were proud of it. Slightly less so after one of your own kills 49 innocent people in cold blood. Youíre not the only piece of work on here mind. Seems a lot of you have crawled away today.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Mar 19 7.40pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by laddo


one of your own kills 49 innocent people in cold blood. .

imagine saying that to an Asian person the same day as 7/7 ? that is one of the most disgusting things i have ever read on here. Shame on you.


i would like to call you a racist, but that would be lowering myself to your tone.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (15 Mar 2019 7.43pm)

 


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Originally posted by laddo

Nothing to answer. We know what you are and what you stand for. You were proud of it. Slightly less so after one of your own kills 49 innocent people in cold blood. Youíre not the only piece of work on here mind. Seems a lot of you have crawled away today.

Ha ha
How is antifa central today.
Whats up did swampy nick your flannel.
On LBC ( you can podcast it if you think im lying)
The afternoon show a muslim chap rang up.
He was surprised it took this long for an attack on mosques.
Then he said that the muslims basically started all this violence with 9/11.
I would rather listen to him than someone of your ilk laddy.

 

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