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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 22 Jun 19 7.11pm

All these lefty pigs are inadvertently racist.

Holding different religions and foreign practices to a lower social/moral standard because "that's just their culture" is the very definition of racism.

Shouting down others for treating people equally is just bizarre. I think it's rooted in fear and ignorance. Better to be on board with the backwards practices than challenge it.

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 22 Jun 19 7.39pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

The recent débâcle with Danny Baker comes to mind.
When he posted the infamous picture, he said, and I believe him, that he did not make an association between monkeys and black people.
But the people crying racist did make that association.
So where does the racism truly lay?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Jun 19 7.51pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

The recent débâcle with Danny Baker comes to mind.
When he posted the infamous picture, he said, and I believe him, that he did not make an association between monkeys and black people.
But the people crying racist did make that association.
So where does the racism truly lay?


As the rather pointed quote goes, 'If you want to see who controls you, see who you can't criticise'.

And like you, I don't even think Baker was doing what the left accused him of......some of them did the 'context doesn't matter' line.....However, when it comes to their views...suddenly the context matters a lot.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2019 7.52pm)

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Jun 19 3.08am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

All these lefty pigs are inadvertently racist.

That's not a racist remark! It is though a very stupid one, as it cannot possibly be true for many reasons.

Holding different religions and foreign practices to a lower social/moral standard because "that's just their culture" is the very definition of racism.

No it isn't. It's just wrong.

Shouting down others for treating people equally is just bizarre. I think it's rooted in fear and ignorance. Better to be on board with the backwards practices than challenge it.

Shouting down anyone, for any reason, is always bizarre. It shows you have run out of both patience and reasoned argument.

 


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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 23 Jun 19 7.55am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Does saying 'picanninies' with 'watermelon smiles' indicate a racist?

I should add, in fairness, that I am sure there are plenty of racist quotes from Labour MP's regarding Jewish people and I have strong doubts over Corbyn regarding this. However the quotes from BJ and others he has made are very worrying if he is to become PM.

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 23 Jun 19 8.22am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

Does saying 'picanninies' with 'watermelon smiles' indicate a racist?

I should add, in fairness, that I am sure there are plenty of racist quotes from Labour MP's regarding Jewish people and I have strong doubts over Corbyn regarding this. However the quotes from BJ and others he has made are very worrying if he is to become PM.

John Denver was often (if not usually) described as having a 'watermelon smile'.

 


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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 23 Jun 19 8.56am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by becky

John Denver was often (if not usually) described as having a 'watermelon smile'.

Indeed but BJ said this in the same article:

‘It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.’

‘No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.’

Also at different times:

‘Right, let’s go and look at some more piccaninnies.’

Boris accused Barack Obama of having an ‘ancestral dislike of the British empire’ because he’s ‘part-Kenyan’

I'm no Tory but surely there must be someone better than this to lead them and the country.


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Jun 19 9.11am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

BJ said this in the same article:

‘It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.’

It was 17 years ago

Originally posted by johnno42000

Boris accused Barack Obama of having an ‘ancestral dislike of the British empire’ because he’s ‘part-Kenyan’

I don't see anything wrong with that comment and it may well have been true.

If we want a Prime Minister who has never said anything politically incorrect why not get Theresa May back again

Edited by johnno42000 (23 Jun 2019 8.57am)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 23 Jun 19 9.13am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

The accounts I've read about the complainant suggest that she (for it was a she) could not be described as whiter than white.

You want to choose your Press more carefully. What about Tom Penn makes you think he is a she?

Maybe you were thinking of one of the other neighbours who were alarmed by the row.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 23 Jun 19 9.20am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Shouting down anyone, for any reason, is always bizarre. It shows you have run out of both patience and reasoned argument.

I knew that would get a bite from you as it summarises your character almost to perfection.

Some of the stuff you either excuse or are actively on board with. Shameful.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Jun 19 9.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

As predicted some of the papers are now investigating the neighbours. There is some confusion over who called the police one report said the police received 3 separate complaints others that it was a husband and wife.

Tom Penn recorded and later sold / gave the story to the Guardian after being told by the police that there was no issue. He is now upset about the publicity he and his wife are getting. Well boo hoo you made a conscious decision to insert yourself into the political process so if the public has a right to know about BJ's personal life they certainly have a right to know about his accusers.

As I said the other day I don't blame anyone for calling the police or even recording it I do criticise them for involving the media after having been told by the police there was no problem.

 


One more point

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 23 Jun 19 9.31am Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

What difference does time make? He shows he has form for saying (believing?) these things.

2004 - Allowed this to be published when he was editor of The Spectator - "The Scotch" as "a verminous race", adding: "It's time Hadrian's Wall was refortified.

"To pen them in a ghetto on the other side. I would go further. The nation deserves not merely isolation. But comprehensive extermination."

2018 - Regarding Muslim women - In the £275,000-a-year column he wrote it was "absolutely ridiculous" that "people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes".

2008 - allowed this to be published in The Spectator - 'Orientals ... have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole.'

 


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