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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 17 Aug 20 10.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

What do you want?

Wisbech is fully able to fight his own corner. That’s appears to be why Stirling seems to get so upset by him

Really?

The only thing he's said that ever got to me were concerning the state's response to the thousands of rapes committed by one of your favoured demographics.

You on the other hand responded to his comments with disinterest...because essentially he's on your side of the fence.

From what I remember what seemed to really interest you was care home abuses over decades (though seemingly not where it involved the aforementioned cases)...you displayed huge concern over in one thread about this, claiming that no one here cared....and then rather predictably with you, never mentioned it again.

Fake principles and fake concerns.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 10.45pm)

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 17 Aug 20 10.58pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Really?

The only thing he's said that ever got to me were concerning the state's response to the thousands of rapes committed by one of your favoured demographics.

You on the other hand responded to his comments with disinterest...because essentially he's on your side of the fence.

From what I remember what seemed to really interest you was care home abuses over decades (though seemingly not where it involved the aforementioned cases)...you displayed huge concern over in one thread about this, claiming that no one here cared....and then rather predictably with you, never mentioned it again.

Fake principles and fake concerns.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2020 10.45pm)

You will find multiple posts from me on historic sexual abuse of children. Especially in Shirley Oaks but also in Wales and Nottinghamshire for example.

But people on here seem to care little unless the perpetrators are Muslim. So maybe you just didn’t notice my posts as they were not in your area of interest. Had you read them you would have noticed the difference between a care home and a children’s home

Yaxley-Lennon neither uncovered the grooming gang cases nor helped in them being brought before the Courts. He just jumped early onto a bandwagon that gave him the chance to foment further hatred, his stock in trade. He likes to punch you know.

 

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W12 17 Aug 20 11.31pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

You will find multiple posts from me on historic sexual abuse of children. Especially in Shirley Oaks but also in Wales and Nottinghamshire

You mean you are only the ones that are *not* generally associated with a specific demographic? no mention of Rotherham, Rochdale,
Oxford, Glasgow, Peterborough, Manchester etc (70+ cities as far as I know). There were 19,000 cases that we know of last year of a crime that is generally vastly under reported i.e. only about 1 in 5 on average.

Find me what percentage per capita are associated with what specific crimes.

“per capita” seem to be very revealing when applied to certain minorities.

The real question though is why you excuse these people?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Aug 20 12.18am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You will find multiple posts from me on historic sexual abuse of children. Especially in Shirley Oaks but also in Wales and Nottinghamshire for example.

But people on here seem to care little unless the perpetrators are Muslim. So maybe you just didn’t notice my posts as they were not in your area of interest. Had you read them you would have noticed the difference between a care home and a children’s home

Yaxley-Lennon neither uncovered the grooming gang cases nor helped in them being brought before the Courts. He just jumped early onto a bandwagon that gave him the chance to foment further hatred, his stock in trade. He likes to punch you know.


Personally I only remember the one thread that you created after you and your fellow apologists were getting buffered. Yeah, you were all het up about that....but not so much about the thousands of rapes of white working class and some Sikh girls specifically because they were non Muslims.

That's why it's different. However, any rape carried out within institutions should be ruthlessly pursued and the rotten core equally ruthlessly punished. That point was gladly made at the time.

As for Robinson, no one said Robinson originally 'uncovered' the grooming gang cases. He was the loudest voice campaigning over it for years certainly but no it was originally uncovered by the BNP under Nick Giffin decades ago.

But Indeed for people like you this wasn't a problem until the Times reported it....says quite a bit that.

Your displays of concern are as fake as some of your cut and pastes.

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Wisbech doesnt fight his own corner he just does this.

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Aug 20 7.34am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

What do you want?

Wisbech is fully able to fight his own corner. That’s appears to be why Stirling seems to get so upset by him

Oh, and because Stirling paid him lots of money to educate his children.

Edited by Mapletree (17 Aug 2020 10.36pm)

Well let me explain, it would not be unusual for you to comment on a post especially if you disagreed with the content... ie Mapletree Incoming.... simples. Let’s not forget I made a comment addressed to WE on the signings on the way thread but you choose to reply to me in a rude, condescending manner, basically telling me not to intervene in other people’s conversations. How hypocritical as you seem to do this on a regular basis, it is a discussion board so surely it is the prerogative of anyone to comment on any posts/to any poster providing they comply with the rules. So maybe you can explain why you felt the need to reply in such a way?


 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Aug 20 8.10am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I presume that is intended to be addressed to me.

The idea that I have been "ripped open so many times" is so risible it made me laugh out loud. The delusion that permeates this site knows no bounds.

I also am consistent, especially on the "rape scandals" on which I have repeatedly have had to correct this poster and call him out for gross misrepresentation.

But you are right on one thing. I am not here for debate. I long ago realised that trying to debate with the group of reactionary bigots who populate this site is a waste of time. No amount of common sense and calm reasoning gets any kind of response other than insult from all but a very few. There are exceptions but they are thin on the ground.

I now drop in here from time to time to make sure that these scandalous views are not allowed to stand without challenge. Without you thinking that the views inside your little bubble are shared by many others. Because they aren't. They are seriously weird.

I have much more important things to do than try to debate with those who are just a waste of time and effort. There are fertile minds out there which can be infuenced and harnessed so that our country can progress as it must. They aren't found here though.

So because you cannot influence/harness posters on here they are bigots who hold scandalous views! Oh lets not forget they are stupid liars as well. Wow! In essence your views are always the right views, you really are a conceited individual aren't you.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Aug 20 8.13am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You will find multiple posts from me on historic sexual abuse of children. Especially in Shirley Oaks but also in Wales and Nottinghamshire for example.

But people on here seem to care little unless the perpetrators are Muslim. So maybe you just didn’t notice my posts as they were not in your area of interest. Had you read them you would have noticed the difference between a care home and a children’s home

Yaxley-Lennon neither uncovered the grooming gang cases nor helped in them being brought before the Courts. He just jumped early onto a bandwagon that gave him the chance to foment further hatred, his stock in trade. He likes to punch you know.

Why bring the BLM philosophy into this?

 

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Originally posted by W12

You mean you are only the ones that are *not* generally associated with a specific demographic? no mention of Rotherham, Rochdale,
Oxford, Glasgow, Peterborough, Manchester etc (70+ cities as far as I know). There were 19,000 cases that we know of last year of a crime that is generally vastly under reported i.e. only about 1 in 5 on average.

Find me what percentage per capita are associated with what specific crimes.

“per capita” seem to be very revealing when applied to certain minorities.

The real question though is why you excuse these people?

The whole issue of child abuse, in every form, horrifies me. In Rochdale 81 people have been convicted. In Shirley Oaks, right next to where I lived throughout my childhood, as I grew up dreadful things were done to very young children including killings. I still know a couple of these victims. I can find one prosecution

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Forgive me if I find the lack of focus on this case, and relative lack of interest on the HOL, simply dreadful.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 18 Aug 20 9.22am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

The whole issue of child abuse, in every form, horrifies me. In Rochdale 81 people have been convicted. In Shirley Oaks, right next to where I lived throughout my childhood, as I grew up dreadful things were done to very young children including killings. I still know a couple of these victims. I can find one prosecution

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Forgive me if I find the lack of focus on this case, and relative lack of interest on the HOL, simply dreadful.


Oh the irony.

Nevertheless I have an open mind on what you've said. Point me to the evidence that the state should have carried out more than one prosecution in this situation.

You seem to be suggesting that the evidence is there and that the Police have ignored it.

I wouldn't be adverse to believing this but I need to see the evidence for it first.

 


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Originally posted by Spiderman

So because you cannot influence/harness posters on here they are bigots who hold scandalous views! Oh lets not forget they are stupid liars as well. Wow! In essence your views are always the right views, you really are a conceited individual aren't you.

They aren't bigots who hold unusual views because I cannot influence them. They just are bigots. I can no longer be bothered to try to engage in any kind of meaningful debate with them as I have learned, as so many others have over the years, that it's a waste of time.

The good news is that it's only a small, fringe, element of society that thinks this way.

I comfort myself by the knowledge that David Icke exists and that some people also actually believe what he says. The group here fall into the same general category.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Aug 20 9.38am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Oh the irony.

Nevertheless I have an open mind on what you've said. Point me to the evidence that the state should have carried out more than one prosecution in this situation.

You seem to be suggesting that the evidence is there and that the Police have ignored it.

I wouldn't be adverse to believing this but I need to see the evidence for it first.

TBF it wouldn’t be the first time Police/authorities have turned a blind eye to abuse, possibly as some may have been involved. Jimmy Saville/Cyril Smith spring to mind.
If the evidence is/was there anyone with knowledge of it should be duty bound to report it

 

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