I agree that not all those who feel genuine dissatisfaction and marginalised are idiots. Far from it and hopefully many of them would have been as appalled as anyone else by what happened on Wednesday and feel badly let down, even if they cannot yet say so.

It is though the way Trump uses them. He doesn't care about them at all and simply used their anger for his own purposes.

Perhaps the light at the end of this tunnel might be a loosening of the grip he has had on the more reasonable within his base. Biden needs to reach out to them.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Even though you watched his "new video", BlueJay, I strongly suggest you watch his speech from the 6th.
Turn the sound down if you really can't bear it.
Is this the body language of a man on the verge of defeat?
The credibility of your many words on this thread would improve tenfold if you actually listen to what he said.

Why does Biden need to reach out to them? This is the point of it all. The Bidens of this world have no interest in Trump supporters. They are the ones who stand in the way of what his corporate paymasters desire the most.

The point is that Biden will do nothing other than f*** them over. That is the point of the Democratic, and to a large extent the mass of the Republican Party. Get their jobs transferred to other countries where bigger profits can be made. Globalisation. Only game in town for the career politicians of any hue.

Voters are an inconvenience. Especially the ones who are willing to make the effort to actually go and vote rather than have nice people do all of that for them.

There is no 'healing'. People on the Left do not want that. Look at here with the Brexit vote. One of the single biggest exercises in democracy ever undertaken in a modern nation. Huge turn out and a clear victory. And yet what do many of the left, most of whom are at least for today the worlds biggest supporters of democracy, do? Throw the kitchen sink at having the votes of 17 million plus rendered invalid.

You want to act all high and mighty about what happened in Washington? Fill your boots. The other way around, I would probably do the same. But serious questions have to be asked about how that was allowed to happen. I smell a huge rat on this one.

But Biden is President. Happy days. And now we can get back to normal. You know 'normal'. Right? Middle Eastern Wars, dramatic footage of missile strikes, factories shifting to third world countries.

But you got rid of Trump. And man who you all told us would never even get the Republican nomination. And then a man who would get massacred by lovely Hillary. LOL.

Enjoy your moment in the sun. Its been a while.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

The Epstein episode showed that....unlike what many weren't saying beforehand....that stuff goes on and is known about amongst some elites to some degree.

However, beyond that it has to pass occam's razor for me.

Human nature teaches that the Savile and Weinstein situation can exist for some time because people hedge their bets and don't want to make claims that damage their influence within their circles unless they are certain of a crime.....human nature.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2021 10.53am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

You will be entering probably the most fulfilling and important period of your life.

You have my congratulation.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2021 10.57am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep....the news cycle changed and so did their attention. They just accept and nod along.

They might as well sell their own wool.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)