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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 03 Aug 21 12.26am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I've never seen so much effort put into trying to conjure an argument out of thin air. As you've already been vaccinated yourself 'AND' I don't believe that vaccinations should be mandatory, you should have this argument with someone else (or perhaps yourself?). Immunity fades over time, the booster boosts immunity significantly. These are facts that people can like or not like (some may think it's a 'good idea' as I tend to believe, others may not wish to go for it.).

I've already had two vaccinations and indeed covid. I'm leading life as normal thanks. You're the one who sounds like you're losing it, who had to have their vaccination status extracted from them, and now feels that you should lecture people if they opt for a booster jab. I have the flu jab, I'll have the covid jab. I'm imparting information. You're trying to get a reaction. Not everything needs to be an argument.

Edited by BlueJay (03 Aug 2021 12.12am)

No you're not. You're a chicken. You're scared of catching a cold. That's not normal. Best you get out the back and dig yourself a bunker. Mind the pansies though. Dig it under the shed I say. Out of sight.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Aug 21 12.31am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

No you're not. You're a chicken. You're scared of catching a cold. That's not normal. Best you get out the back and dig yourself a bunker. Mind the pansies though. Dig it under the shed I say. Out of sight.

Honestly, for your sake I hope you've been on the sauce. Have you run so far out of arguments that this is what you're left with?

I had Covid weeks ago (and stated so on here at the time). Rationally following on from that it's extremely unlikely that I will again get is over the next few months (or spread it to anyone) and so there is no reason for me not to carry on as normal.

A combo of vaccination and mild Covid seems like a perfectly optimal and expected combination to me.

Edited by BlueJay (03 Aug 2021 1.45am)

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Aug 21 12.43am

Also I was never in the least bit 'scared' of catching covid, aside from the fact that I feared spreading it to a couple of vulnerable family members. They're now fully vaccinated too and with the help of lateral flow tests and the like it thankfully meant that a 'worst case scenario' never came to be. All anyone can do is what they think is best for them and theirs. That is what I always do for my family, and those vulnerable and eligible will be getting the booster on account that it is shown to further boost immunity. As I say the same reason we have the flu jab. It's not a political statement and others can give it a miss. You do as you wish to, and I will look out for those around me based on their health, rather than your politics, if that's alright with you.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 03 Aug 21 5.03am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

I would say the need for a booster jab not even 6 months after having the full dose seems a bit... soon.

It's been stated by the cdc and many scientists and media coverage that those jabbed can and will spread the virus, makes sense when you think about it, the jab, depending on which one you take either contains the spike protein or makes you produce it, artificially... so if you shed that, which is very likely via a sneeze, a cough etc then those around you subject to inhaling it.
It doesn't yet state when that mrna wears off.. could be a week, month or year.

Gotta ask yourself, a virus that is able to survive a jabbed person has either mutated to is already bloody strong...

past year we have had variants galore, we have also had jabs.. coincidence?

The science may well work, but it is in trials and may well be flawed.

we'll find out, maybe... come 2023.

All I can say is this, be as healthy as you can..

if you feel the jab is right for you, go ahead and feel confident that you alone, made the right call and that you alone are protecting yourself.

freedom of choice is key.

 


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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Online Flag Kent 03 Aug 21 7.45am Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

So for the vaccine passport fans - with the coming introduction of “boosters” you do realise that 2 injections will not be sufficient to maintain a “green tick” and that you are signing up to a lifetime of government mandated “health protocols”.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Aug 21 9.32am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

So for the vaccine passport fans - with the coming introduction of “boosters” you do realise that 2 injections will not be sufficient to maintain a “green tick” and that you are signing up to a lifetime of government mandated “health protocols”.

Unfortunately you’re correct.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Aug 21 11.25am

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

So for the vaccine passport fans - with the coming introduction of “boosters” you do realise that 2 injections will not be sufficient to maintain a “green tick” and that you are signing up to a lifetime of government mandated “health protocols”.

Not a fan of vaccine passports, but boosters were inevitable and are in fact the very nature of many vaccines (see flu). Being that half of the population are unlikely to even be invited to have the booster jab, it would appear unlikely that it will be a requirement of any kind or that people with two vaccines will be treated differently legally to those with two plus the vaccine booster.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Aug 21 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Not a fan of vaccine passports, but boosters were inevitable and are in fact the very nature of many vaccines (see flu). Being that half of the population are unlikely to even be invited to have the booster jab, it would appear unlikely that it will be a requirement of any kind or that people with two vaccines will be treated differently legally to those with two plus the vaccine booster.

How long do the 2 vaccines last then? I think we’re in danger of contradicting ourselves.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Aug 21 12.32pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How long do the 2 vaccines last then? I think we’re in danger of contradicting ourselves.

I think we're just drifting into a yearly 'flu jab' type cycle with it really and that will have to be as good as it gets regardless of any other factors (different variants, antibody level changes..). Down to the individual if they wish to opt for it I would hope.

 

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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Online Flag Kent 03 Aug 21 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Not a fan of vaccine passports, but boosters were inevitable and are in fact the very nature of many vaccines (see flu). Being that half of the population are unlikely to even be invited to have the booster jab, it would appear unlikely that it will be a requirement of any kind or that people with two vaccines will be treated differently legally to those with two plus the vaccine booster.

I think this is quite a naive view BJ - with this authoritarian government track record I would not bet against them mandating that all boosters (and whatever else they deem necessary) are required to ensure your vaccine passport does not lapse.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Aug 21 7.42pm

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

I think this is quite a naive view BJ - with this authoritarian government track record I would not bet against them mandating that all boosters (and whatever else they deem necessary) are required to ensure your vaccine passport does not lapse.

Thanks for sharing your take. I was primarily basing it on how fragmented the situation will become (unless of course the goal posts change to 'everyone must have the booster'), making it harder to make uniformed demands of the public potentially. Time will tell of course, and you may be right! At the same time I think it's right that the booster option is there; I'll take the views of it on here as public declaration of not intending to have it. I will opt for it, but the politics of it beyond that it out of our hands no doubt, much as it often is.

Edited by BlueJay (03 Aug 2021 10.22pm)

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 04 Aug 21 12.21am Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Thanks for sharing your take. I was primarily basing it on how fragmented the situation will become (unless of course the goal posts change to 'everyone must have the booster'), making it harder to make uniformed demands of the public potentially. Time will tell of course, and you may be right! At the same time I think it's right that the booster option is there; I'll take the views of it on here as public declaration of not intending to have it. I will opt for it, but the politics of it beyond that it out of our hands no doubt, much as it often is.

Edited by BlueJay (03 Aug 2021 10.22pm)

Of course you'll opt for it. As I said, you're a chicken. But, what you fail to realise is that by opting for it, you legitamise it. Because of people like you, we will need medical passports.

Now go and get a glass of almond milk to take to bed with "teddy".

 


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