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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Aug 21 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

My own uneducated personal view as a volunteer who has probably seen between 10-15k patients I have yet to see anyone have a reaction to the vaccine, normally it's unrelated.

Some people faint because they are scared of needles, I had one on Saturday, some because they are dehydrated and haven't eaten normally meaning they were on the piss the night before, low blood sugar is another one.


 


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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 26 Aug 21 1.16pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


No numbers that are used in an open environment can really be taken serious no control factors so anything could be doing this no prove of causation.

This has shown the true picture of how unhealthy a lot of humans are. (this is what the focus should really be on)

Too many variables this is again why you have to do proper controlled human studies for these things which they did not do.

What does any of that mean?

What other information do we have to go on regarding the safety of these so called vaccines other than studies carried out by manufacturers with a clear conflict of interest?

What ever happened to "first do no harm" and informed consent?

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 26 Aug 21 1.27pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

My own uneducated personal view as a volunteer who has probably seen between 10-15k patients I have yet to see anyone have a reaction to the vaccine, normally it's unrelated.

Some people faint because they are scared of needles, I had one on Saturday, some because they are dehydrated and haven't eaten normally meaning they were on the piss the night before, low blood sugar is another one.


Volunteer in what way? You mean a reaction within just a few minutes of the vaccine only?

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

My own uneducated personal view as a volunteer who has probably seen between 10-15k patients I have yet to see anyone have a reaction to the vaccine, normally it's unrelated.

Some people faint because they are scared of needles, I had one on Saturday, some because they are dehydrated and haven't eaten normally meaning they were on the piss the night before, low blood sugar is another one.



I have seen many people with issues most of them are not quick reactions but delayed ones.

But as stated before are these due to the vaccine or other problems even combo if you was to go by association its the vaccine this is the only other factor which was introduced.

I have also seen people die a few days later after having it.

Originally posted by W12

What does any of that mean?

What other information do we have to go on regarding the safety of these so called vaccines other than studies carried out by manufacturers with a clear conflict of interest?

What ever happened to "first do no harm" and informed consent?


It is very clear what it means if you cant follow it you unfortunately are not educated enough to understand so really shouldn't even be commenting.

Not all the vaccines are equal if you are going to look into research this needs to be taken into account.

Their is ones which do not use experimental methods (none approved in UK yet)

You can find studies done by other parties the problem with a lot of these is the same as the manufacture ones not proper controlled or too short of a period a fair few as well have control groups way to small to be any use.

"Do no harm" was a BS made up saying it has never applied.

People have the choice to have the vaccine or not the same with people who choose to smoke or drink alcohol.

 


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Originally posted by W12

UPDATED REPORT PUBLISHED 19TH AUG 2021
MHRA Yellow Card Reporting up to 11th Aug 2021

Reactions - 293,779 (Pfizer) + 813,622 (AZ) + 41,274 (Moderna) + 3093 (Unknown) = 1,151,768

Reports - 104,446 (Pfizer) + 228,239 (AZ) + 13,325 (Moderna) + 1022 (Unknown) = 347,032

Fatal - 501 (Pfizer) + 1053 (AZ) + 14 (Moderna) + 28 (Unknown) = 1596

Acute Cardiac - 4640 (Pfizer) + 9053 (AZ) + 463 (Moderna) + 33 (Unknown) = 14,189

Pericarditis/Myocarditis (Heart inflammation) - 339 (Pfizer) + 245 (AZ) + 61 (Moderna) + 2 (Unknown) = 647

Myocardial Infarction & Heart Failure - 225 (Pfizer) + 484 (AZ) + 11 (Moderna) + 6 (Unknown) = 726

Anaphylaxis - 461 (Pfizer) + 808 (AZ) + 30 (Moderna) + 1 (Unknown) = 1300

Blood Disorders - 9933 (Pfizer) + 7327 (AZ) + 785 (Moderna) + 44 (Unknown) = 18,089

Infections - 6920 (Pfizer) + 17,995 (AZ) + 682 (Moderna) + 88 (Unknown) = 25,685

Herpes - 1557 (Pfizer) + 2463 (AZ) + 69 (Moderna) + 13 (Unknown) = 4102

Headaches - 21,193 (Pfizer) + 83,366 (AZ) + 2370 (Moderna) + 227 (Unknown) = 107,156

Migraine - 2400 (Pfizer) + 7989 (AZ) + 264 (Moderna) + 29 (Unknown) = 10,682

Eye Disorders - 4872 (Pfizer) + 13,649 (AZ) + 453 (Moderna) + 52 (Unknown) = 19,026

Blindness - 96 (Pfizer) + 279 (AZ) + 11 (Moderna) + 3 (Unknown) = 389

Deafness - 181 (Pfizer) + 359 (AZ) + 13 (Moderna) + 2 (Unknown) = 555

Psychiatric Disorders - 5929 (Pfizer) + 16,930 (AZ) + 815 (Moderna) + 73 (Unknown) = 23,747

Skin Disorders - 20,741 (Pfizer) + 50,087 (AZ) + 6395 (Moderna) + 208 (Unknown) = 77,431

Swelling Face - 606 (Pfizer) + 1051 (AZ) + 60 (Moderna) + 10 (Unknown) = 1727

Spontaneous Abortions - 258 + 6 stillbirth/foetal death (Pfizer) + 185 + 2 stillbirth (AZ) + 21 + 1 foetal death (Moderna) + 1 (Unknown) = 465 + 9 (figures imply 16 related maternal deaths)

Vomiting - 3151 (Pfizer) + 11,320 (AZ) + 447 (Moderna) + 39 (Unknown) = 14,957

Facial Paralysis incl. Bellís Palsy - 675 (Pfizer) + 850 (AZ) + 46 (Moderna) + 5 (Unknown) = 1576

Nervous System Disorders - 51,628 (Pfizer) + 173,431 (AZ) + 6348 (Moderna) + 588 (Unknown) = 231,995

Strokes and CNS haemorrhages - 489 (Pfizer) + 1978 (AZ) + 14 (Moderna) + 8 (Unknown) = 2489

Guillian Barre Syndrome - 42 (Pfizer) + 383 (AZ) + 2 (Moderna) + 5 (Unknown) = 432

Tremor - 1247 (Pfizer) + 9659 (AZ) + 144 (Moderna) + 37 (Unknown) = 11,087

Pulmonary Embolism & Deep Vein Thrombosis - 573 (Pfizer) + 2666 (AZ) + 25 (Moderna) + 18 (Unknown) = 3282

Respiratory Disorders - 12,581 (Pfizer) + 27,299 (AZ) + 1066 (Moderna) + 109 (Unknown) = 41,055

Seizures - 686 (Pfizer) + 1857 (AZ) + 109 (Moderna) + 9 (Unknown) = 2661

Paralysis - 296 (Pfizer) + 730 (AZ) + 36 (Moderna) + 5 (Unknown) = 1067

Haemorrhage (All types) - 2483 (Pfizer) + 4672 (AZ) + 313 (Moderna) + 36 (Unknown) = 7504

Vertigo/Tinnitis - 2618 (Pfizer) + 6275 (AZ) + 259 (Moderna) + 25 (Unknown) = 9177

Renal & Urinary Disorders - 775 (Pfizer) + 2495 (AZ) + 85 (Moderna) + 23 (Unknown) = 3378

Reproductive/Breast - 16,336 (Pfizer) + 16,460 (AZ) + 2102 (Moderna) + 112 (Unknown) = 35,010

Is this world wide and how many jabs given as a total.
Allied with a percentage may have gotten some of these issues anyway. Just saying.

 

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Tough to convinces someone you got herpes from the vaccination.....


Originally posted by W12

UPDATED REPORT PUBLISHED 19TH AUG 2021
MHRA Yellow Card Reporting up to 11th Aug 2021

Reactions - 293,779 (Pfizer) + 813,622 (AZ) + 41,274 (Moderna) + 3093 (Unknown) = 1,151,768

Reports - 104,446 (Pfizer) + 228,239 (AZ) + 13,325 (Moderna) + 1022 (Unknown) = 347,032

Fatal - 501 (Pfizer) + 1053 (AZ) + 14 (Moderna) + 28 (Unknown) = 1596

Acute Cardiac - 4640 (Pfizer) + 9053 (AZ) + 463 (Moderna) + 33 (Unknown) = 14,189

Pericarditis/Myocarditis (Heart inflammation) - 339 (Pfizer) + 245 (AZ) + 61 (Moderna) + 2 (Unknown) = 647

Myocardial Infarction & Heart Failure - 225 (Pfizer) + 484 (AZ) + 11 (Moderna) + 6 (Unknown) = 726

Anaphylaxis - 461 (Pfizer) + 808 (AZ) + 30 (Moderna) + 1 (Unknown) = 1300

Blood Disorders - 9933 (Pfizer) + 7327 (AZ) + 785 (Moderna) + 44 (Unknown) = 18,089

Infections - 6920 (Pfizer) + 17,995 (AZ) + 682 (Moderna) + 88 (Unknown) = 25,685

Herpes - 1557 (Pfizer) + 2463 (AZ) + 69 (Moderna) + 13 (Unknown) = 4102

Headaches - 21,193 (Pfizer) + 83,366 (AZ) + 2370 (Moderna) + 227 (Unknown) = 107,156

Migraine - 2400 (Pfizer) + 7989 (AZ) + 264 (Moderna) + 29 (Unknown) = 10,682

Eye Disorders - 4872 (Pfizer) + 13,649 (AZ) + 453 (Moderna) + 52 (Unknown) = 19,026

Blindness - 96 (Pfizer) + 279 (AZ) + 11 (Moderna) + 3 (Unknown) = 389

Deafness - 181 (Pfizer) + 359 (AZ) + 13 (Moderna) + 2 (Unknown) = 555

Psychiatric Disorders - 5929 (Pfizer) + 16,930 (AZ) + 815 (Moderna) + 73 (Unknown) = 23,747

Skin Disorders - 20,741 (Pfizer) + 50,087 (AZ) + 6395 (Moderna) + 208 (Unknown) = 77,431

Swelling Face - 606 (Pfizer) + 1051 (AZ) + 60 (Moderna) + 10 (Unknown) = 1727

Spontaneous Abortions - 258 + 6 stillbirth/foetal death (Pfizer) + 185 + 2 stillbirth (AZ) + 21 + 1 foetal death (Moderna) + 1 (Unknown) = 465 + 9 (figures imply 16 related maternal deaths)

Vomiting - 3151 (Pfizer) + 11,320 (AZ) + 447 (Moderna) + 39 (Unknown) = 14,957

Facial Paralysis incl. Bellís Palsy - 675 (Pfizer) + 850 (AZ) + 46 (Moderna) + 5 (Unknown) = 1576

Nervous System Disorders - 51,628 (Pfizer) + 173,431 (AZ) + 6348 (Moderna) + 588 (Unknown) = 231,995

Strokes and CNS haemorrhages - 489 (Pfizer) + 1978 (AZ) + 14 (Moderna) + 8 (Unknown) = 2489

Guillian Barre Syndrome - 42 (Pfizer) + 383 (AZ) + 2 (Moderna) + 5 (Unknown) = 432

Tremor - 1247 (Pfizer) + 9659 (AZ) + 144 (Moderna) + 37 (Unknown) = 11,087

Pulmonary Embolism & Deep Vein Thrombosis - 573 (Pfizer) + 2666 (AZ) + 25 (Moderna) + 18 (Unknown) = 3282

Respiratory Disorders - 12,581 (Pfizer) + 27,299 (AZ) + 1066 (Moderna) + 109 (Unknown) = 41,055

Seizures - 686 (Pfizer) + 1857 (AZ) + 109 (Moderna) + 9 (Unknown) = 2661

Paralysis - 296 (Pfizer) + 730 (AZ) + 36 (Moderna) + 5 (Unknown) = 1067

Haemorrhage (All types) - 2483 (Pfizer) + 4672 (AZ) + 313 (Moderna) + 36 (Unknown) = 7504

Vertigo/Tinnitis - 2618 (Pfizer) + 6275 (AZ) + 259 (Moderna) + 25 (Unknown) = 9177

Renal & Urinary Disorders - 775 (Pfizer) + 2495 (AZ) + 85 (Moderna) + 23 (Unknown) = 3378

Reproductive/Breast - 16,336 (Pfizer) + 16,460 (AZ) + 2102 (Moderna) + 112 (Unknown) = 35,010

 


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Originally posted by cryrst

Is this world wide and how many jabs given as a total.
Allied with a percentage may have gotten some of these issues anyway. Just saying.

This in UK only.

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As I proved in an earlier post this only captures less than 10% of the real numbers according to the governments website.

What percentage of the people who "died within 28 days of a positive PCR test" would have died of something else or does that work in only one direction?

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 26 Aug 21 2.14pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

"It is very clear what it means if you cant follow it you unfortunately are not educated enough to understand so really shouldn't even be commenting" - your opening reply is ad hominem - no need for that

"Not all the vaccines are equal if you are going to look into research this needs to be taken into account" - relevance?

"Their is ones which do not use experimental methods (none approved in UK yet)" - There are none approved on the UK - they are all under emergency use authorisation so escape proper process and scrutiny.

"You can find studies done by other parties the problem with a lot of these is the same as the manufacture ones not proper controlled or too short of a period a fair few as well have control groups way to small to be any use" - there are no long term studies by definition as these "vaccines" (Gene therapies) were rushed out. Should this not be an additional reason to be concerned by the numbers of adverse reactions we are potentially seeing?

""Do no harm" was a BS made up saying it has never applied" - do you disagree with this or at least that a there needs to be a specific need to a treatment?

"People have the choice to have the vaccine or not the same with people who choose to smoke or drink alcohol" - I'm talking specifically about kids here who are in no position to give consent

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 26 Aug 21 2.18pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

By the way, people are already being coerced into these vaccines e.g. by employers mandating them, by government guilt trips - this is not "choice". This breaks international agreements like the Nuremberg code amongst others.

 

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Originally posted by HKOwen

Tough to convinces someone you got herpes from the vaccination.....


Why?

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

My own uneducated personal view as a volunteer who has probably seen between 10-15k patients I have yet to see anyone have a reaction to the vaccine, normally it's unrelated.

Some people faint because they are scared of needles, I had one on Saturday, some because they are dehydrated and haven't eaten normally meaning they were on the piss the night before, low blood sugar is another one.


I think this is an area that requires research.

The problem is that there is significant vested interest in this not happening anytime soon. All the powerful institutions stood behind only one message and anything that shows that reality is more grey isn't in any of their interest.

The message that all the vaccine companies are protected from prosecution isn't advertised as much as assurances that it's safe that's for sure.

At the moment, as is to be expected, the only information coming out regarding vaccine issues and risks is coming from those opposed to them. Now, they may be right to say things are being covered up or they may be using the same dodgy one eyed statistics the government has used to scare the public (some of my bias there).

What I want is a genuine, independent and objective team who actually want to get to the bottom of this and aren't easily fooled. I suppose in this day and age, that type of thing is wishful thinking....as those kind of people aren't the types who get promoted to lead anymore.

In terms of who should take the vaccine, it's a risk assessment for the individual. For those with weak immune systems and the elderly I think a vaccination (even though I regard these as quite weak) can make sense....though their risk of dying has been exaggerated.

What's happening with the rollout to children as young as 12 though....I regard that as morally wrong and nothing but a vampiric response. All the risk goes one way there.

The natural order is for the elders to look after the young.....but as a general trend the last two generations have allowed the culture to subvert them.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think this is an area that requires research.

The problem is that there is significant vested interest in this not happening anytime soon. All the powerful institutions stood behind only one message and anything that shows that reality is more grey isn't in any of their interest.

The message that all the vaccine companies are protected from prosecution isn't advertised as much as assurances that it's safe that's for sure.

At the moment, as is to be expected, the only information coming out regarding vaccine issues and risks is coming from those opposed to them. Now, they may be right to say things are being covered up or they may be using the same dodgy one eyed statistics the government has used to scare the public (some of my bias there).

What I want is a genuine, independent and objective team who actually want to get to the bottom of this and aren't easily fooled. I suppose in this day and age, that type of thing is wishful thinking....as those kind of people aren't the types who get promoted to lead anymore.

In terms of who should take the vaccine, it's a risk assessment for the individual. For those with weak immune systems and the elderly I think a vaccination (even though I regard these as quite weak) can make sense....though their risk of dying has been exaggerated.

What's happening with the rollout to children as young as 12 though....I regard that as morally wrong and nothing but a vampiric response. All the risk goes one way there.

The natural order is for the elders to look after the young.....but as a general trend the last two generations have allowed the culture to subvert them.

All the evidence points in one direction. The "rollout" needs to be stopped in it's tracks. No vaccine has ever caused this much damage and we are only seeing the short term effects.

 

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