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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 05 Sep 21 10.38pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

He 'could'? It's already a bloomin saga. He called the vaccines 'unsafe for years', then had to have it extracted from him that he'd eventually had it, and now he's back to saying it's unsafe.

Of course if someone views a vaccine as unsafe at various points before and after actually having it, then taking it into their body may not be the best choice.

The only exception to that is if on some level outside of online bluffer and bluster they do actually believe that it was the right choice and may well protect them but prefer to do the 'have your cake and eat it' of maintaining an outwardly dismissive view of the vaccine. I'd say this is closer to the truth and of course also closer to the reality in health terms too.

I maintain that the vaccine will not be safe for years, if ever (you forgot that bit). I have never changed my stance on this. It's risks are less than not having it for many people. I have never stated otherwise. However, it is not safe.

As usual, you overlook what is written and attack the writer. All this talk of "bluster" and "have your cake and eat it" is your own invention.

As for "maintaining an outwardly dismissive view of the vaccine", I had the vaccine when I was offered it. How dismissive is that?

Read what is written. Or I may have to quote Mr Twain.

 


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View Bearcage's Profile Bearcage Flag Welling 05 Sep 21 11.07pm Send a Private Message to Bearcage Add Bearcage as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Indeed. But the vaccine is not safe.

Neither is walking down a street, driving a car, traveling by aircraft, going to football matches, and most other things.
However the vaccine is very low risk (safe for most who take it), and much safer than the alternative.
I assume you agree, as you stated you had the vaccine when offered.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 05 Sep 21 11.28pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

Neither is walking down a street, driving a car, traveling by aircraft, going to football matches, and most other things.
However the vaccine is very low risk (safe for most who take it), and much safer than the alternative.
I assume you agree, as you stated you had the vaccine when offered.

I think it's hard to say that with certainty without it being several years down the line.

Long terms effects just aren't known. It was always a risk assessment...and it's partly why I'm very against these vaccines being given to people at extremely low risk of dying.

Saying to young people that they can't go to events without being vaccinated is completely wrong.

Societally vampiric.

 


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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 05 Sep 21 11.44pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 05 Sep 21 11.45pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

Neither is walking down a street, driving a car, traveling by aircraft, going to football matches, and most other things.
However the vaccine is very low risk (safe for most who take it), and much safer than the alternative.
I assume you agree, as you stated you had the vaccine when offered.

Yep. But I have a choice whether to do those things or not. If I refused to do any of those, they might make my life harder, but that would be my choice. Get it? MY CHOICE. Enforcing it upon others at low risk, in fact lower risk, of dying from the virus than the vaccine is not acceptable.

 


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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 05 Sep 21 11.53pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Lombardinho

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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Get off bitchute ffs. It's guff. Sunday Sport style.

If you want to debate the vaccine/virus find a better source please. Nobody reads this stuff. You're wasting your time.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 06 Sep 21 12.27am

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Get off bitchute ffs. It's guff. Sunday Sport style.

If you want to debate the vaccine/virus find a better source please. Nobody reads this stuff. You're wasting your time.

I agree with you on this one. Whenever anyone fires across a bitchute link you immediately learn more about them than the video they're sending could ever convey . That said Lombardinho does come across as a nice fellow on here, so whatever difference in views he has I wouldn't say its coloured his attitude towards others. There's a lot to be said for that, as many of us get too tribal.

 

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View Bearcage's Profile Bearcage Flag Welling 06 Sep 21 12.28am Send a Private Message to Bearcage Add Bearcage as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Yep. But I have a choice whether to do those things or not. If I refused to do any of those, they might make my life harder, but that would be my choice. Get it? MY CHOICE. Enforcing it upon others at low risk, in fact lower risk, of dying from the virus than the vaccine is not acceptable.

Who is at a lower risk of dying from the virus than the vaccine that is being forced to take the vaccine?
Within the UK the vaccine is not being forced on anyone, everyone has a choice (and they’re at a higher risk from the virus than the vaccine).

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 06 Sep 21 12.40am

Throw away your meds folks. Have you seen that side effects profile!

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 06 Sep 21 6.35am Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Get off bitchute ffs. It's guff. Sunday Sport style.

If you want to debate the vaccine/virus find a better source please. Nobody reads this stuff. You're wasting your time.

If you're interested in the truth (which I am, are you?), sometimes you need to go onto Bitchute.
The Sunday Sport has the same value as any other broadsheet or tabloid you may care to mention. They are ALL guff.

 

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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 06 Sep 21 6.47am Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

Who is at a lower risk of dying from the virus than the vaccine that is being forced to take the vaccine?
Within the UK the vaccine is not being forced on anyone, everyone has a choice (and they’re at a higher risk from the virus than the vaccine).


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Children aged 12 to 15 are more at risk of the vaccine than CV according to the JCVI. Follow the science..

Ok not being “forced” but you will lose your job and also lose access to bars/restaurants/shops/sporting events etc - this is coercion.


 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 06 Sep 21 10.22am Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle


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Ok not being “forced” but you will lose your job and also lose access to bars/restaurants/shops/sporting events etc - this is coercion.



Shock horror - life can be unfair, some people will have access/get more things than others. Life was always that way before covid and will continue to be after covid.


Edited by Orange1290 (06 Sep 2021 10.23am)

 


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