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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 14 Nov 21 8.50am Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Children are the great asymptomatic spreaders. I suggest, at this particularly apt time of year, that the first-born of every family be euthanised.
This would also reduce the planets carbon footprint by stopping the unnecessary production of plastic toys and confectionary.

 

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Children are the great asymptomatic spreaders. I suggest, at this particularly apt time of year, that the first-born of every family be euthanised.
This would also reduce the planets carbon footprint by stopping the unnecessary production of plastic toys and confectionary.

Is Forest Hillbilly and anagram for Herod Agrippa?

 


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View GlazierJohn's Profile GlazierJohn Flag Carshalton 14 Nov 21 11.26am Send a Private Message to GlazierJohn Add GlazierJohn as a friend

Well I am currently self-isolating as are all the family having tested positive. We have all had two jabs and I thank God we have. I would have been much more concerned if we had got it 12-18 months ago. Good time to have to self-isolate during an International break and then Burnley away !

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 14 Nov 21 3.07pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Interesting finding from the Zoe Covid study and follow up antibody tests etc.

They posit that 1/5 of those developing natural infection do not develop antibodies to covid, but that for others protection is around 65% 6 months later and that protection may be fairly long lasting (even compared to vaccination).

Protection six months after AZ was 71%, six months after PZifer 83%

For those who were also infected with covid at some point:


Protection six months after AZ was 90%, six months after PZifer 94%

As such unsurprising, a combined or cumulative affect of vaccination and natural infection seems to put the individual in the best position. Just one reference point of course, but over time finding develop a clarity to them. We're likely in about the best position possible due to the rollout and fact that the most unvaccinated group (kids) is the one least likely to be troubled anyway. They may help to spread covid, but logically getting covid post vaccination may still be inevitable for many anyway and not necessary a negative in the big scheme as it more typically acts to your advantage without the downside, when compared to unvaccinated catching it.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Nov 2021 3.09pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 14 Nov 21 3.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Interesting finding from the Zoe Covid study and follow up antibody tests etc.

They posit that 1/5 of those developing natural infection do not develop antibodies to covid, but that for others protection is around 65% 6 months later and that protection may be fairly long lasting (even compared to vaccination).

Protection six months after AZ was 71%, six months after PZifer 83%

For those who were also infected with covid at some point:


Protection six months after AZ was 90%, six months after PZifer 94%

As such unsurprising, a combined or cumulative affect of vaccination and natural infection seems to put the individual in the best position. Just one reference point of course, but over time finding develop a clarity to them. We're likely in about the best position possible due to the rollout and fact that the most unvaccinated group (kids) is the one least likely to be troubled anyway. They may help to spread covid, but logically getting covid post vaccination may still be inevitable for many anyway and not necessary a negative in the big scheme as it more typically acts to your advantage without the downside, when compared to unvaccinated catching it.


Edited by BlueJay (14 Nov 2021 3.09pm)

That all seems pretty realistic and an accurate summary.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 14 Nov 21 3.50pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That all seems pretty realistic and an accurate summary.

Yes, one positive is that, as you know, post covid it makes you realise how it impacts you personally, improves your ability to deal with it in future, and is a reminder that staying fit and healthy is important. Sad for those with immune issues, or a susceptibility to it, but some always get dealt an unfortunate hand.

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

Yes, one positive is that, as you know, post covid it makes you realise how it impacts you personally, improves your ability to deal with it in future, and is a reminder that staying fit and healthy is important. Sad for those with immune issues, or a susceptibility to it, but some always get dealt an unfortunate hand.

Yep, it's one of the crap aspects of life and at its worst, as with terminal children, it breaks your heart.

One of the better sides to modernity has been the advances in medicine and subsequent reduction in suffering.

 


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Originally posted by GlazierJohn

Well I am currently self-isolating as are all the family having tested positive. We have all had two jabs and I thank God we have. I would have been much more concerned if we had got it 12-18 months ago. Good time to have to self-isolate during an International break and then Burnley away !

Obviously a light attack from the sound of it.
Take care and get well soon.

 

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View mezzer's Profile mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 15 Nov 21 10.24am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by GlazierJohn

Well I am currently self-isolating as are all the family having tested positive. We have all had two jabs and I thank God we have. I would have been much more concerned if we had got it 12-18 months ago. Good time to have to self-isolate during an International break and then Burnley away !

Same here GJ. I never liked the international breaks before.

Pretty sure I caught it on the massively crammed, overfull trains between Brighton and East Croydon for the Wolves game.

Very happy to have been double jabbed.

 


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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 15 Nov 21 10.55am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep, it's one of the crap aspects of life and at its worst, as with terminal children, it breaks your heart.

One of the better sides to modernity has been the advances in medicine and subsequent reduction in suffering.

Yes as much as we try and often succeed in fending off much of the harshness of nature, the cruelest examples are always there for the unlucky few. We should definitely to thankful for the advancements that we;re living through, they can;t come fast enough.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 15 Nov 21 10.56am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by GlazierJohn

Well I am currently self-isolating as are all the family having tested positive. We have all had two jabs and I thank God we have. I would have been much more concerned if we had got it 12-18 months ago. Good time to have to self-isolate during an International break and then Burnley away !

Get well soon pal. Good health to you and yours and at least once you're through the other side of it you can all largely forget about it for a long time.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 15 Nov 21 3.30pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Anyone holding back on the booster?If so, why? I got my letter but not sure if im going to bother, might wait for booster two in 5 months.

 

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