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 Badger11  Beckenham 30 Aug 20 9.42am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The BBC surpassing itself in the current emergency. The return of international cricket today brings back memories of Sunday lunch, cosy afternoons in front of the telly (BBC of course) glued to the John Player League. Why do people rate Underwood? Well ask the 5 Sussex batsmen who are returning to the pavilion one after the other. You cough up some exorbitant fee to watch nothing but adverts and right wing propaganda. It also brings money into that sport. If someone is not prepared to support that sport by buying a ticket then the least they can do is pay to watch it on TV. Some people of course don't want to do that either, well I don't see why I should pay for someone else's pleasure so the only alternative is to tell the players they must take a massive pay cut. County cricket for example now has crowds in the low hundreds for most games they need TV money to survive. Edited by Badger11 (30 Aug 2020 9.43am) Edited by Badger11 (30 Aug 2020 9.44am)
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| Stirlingsays 01 Sep 20 7.19am |
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The Times this week commissioned an opinion poll from You Gov about attitudes regarding the BBC. To summarise results 55 per cent do not agree with the Last Night of the Proms decision to rid it of words. 21 per cent agreed with the BBC. 20 percent of 1,646 respondents thought the licence fee should remain in its present form. 57 per cent believe the £157.50 annual fee is not ‘value for money’. Only 35 percent believe it is.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 01 Sep 20 8.19am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The Times this week commissioned an opinion poll from You Gov about attitudes regarding the BBC. To summarise results 55 per cent do not agree with the Last Night of the Proms decision to rid it of words. 21 per cent agreed with the BBC. 20 percent of 1,646 respondents thought the licence fee should remain in its present form. 57 per cent believe the £157.50 annual fee is not ‘value for money’. Only 35 percent believe it is. Hopefully the new DG will recognise that the BBC has to serve the whole of the country and not just the London left wing elite. Tony Hall's great idea was to move more jobs out of London. That doesn't solve the problem they need to start making programs that appeal to a broader range of people and stop being so biased in their News and Current Affairs output. I think plans to decriminalise the licence fee will be announced in the next few months. It's hard to argue agaist when it is not a criminals offence to not pay your utility bill. If the new DG has any sense he will try and find a compromise with the government, Tony Hall's idea of a compromise was a new tax to replace the licence fee that's not a compromise and is never going to happen. If the new DG can meet the government halfway over the free licences for over 75's he may well take the heat about of the anti BBC movement. Kinda hoping he screws up and digs his heels in.
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| Matov 01 Sep 20 8.35am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Hopefully the new DG will recognise that the BBC has to serve the whole of the country and not just the London left wing elite.
Already making noises about that but we will see. Long way to go and the BBC is an archaic throwback now. Absolutely zero justification anymore for its funding model and whilst they might make the noises about trying to reflect a more populist mindset, I suspect they are simply not capable of doing so.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 01 Sep 20 9.28am |
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Originally posted by Matov
Already making noises about that but we will see. Long way to go and the BBC is an archaic throwback now. Absolutely zero justification anymore for its funding model and whilst they might make the noises about trying to reflect a more populist mindset, I suspect they are simply not capable of doing so. Yup I have no idea who the new DG is but even if he has a more centrist view of life he will be fighting thousands of managers and luvvies who will dig their heels in. The BBC Proms being a point in case I bet the first Tony Hall heard about it was when it hit the fan in the papers. One person trying to change the culture of a large organisation is a tough gig I wish him luck.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Sep 20 10.16am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Yup I have no idea who the new DG is but even if he has a more centrist view of life he will be fighting thousands of managers and luvvies who will dig their heels in. The BBC Proms being a point in case I bet the first Tony Hall heard about it was when it hit the fan in the papers. One person trying to change the culture of a large organisation is a tough gig I wish him luck. The new DG is a guy called Tim Davie. A South London boy & Palace fan.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 01 Sep 20 11.07am |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
The new DG is a guy called Tim Davie. A South London boy & Palace fan. Good to hear but how did he get the job? Don't like minded people appoint like minded people? Anyway actions speak louder than words.
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| ghosteagle 01 Sep 20 11.08am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Hopefully the new DG will recognise that the BBC has to serve the whole of the country and not just the London left wing elite. Tony Hall's great idea was to move more jobs out of London. That doesn't solve the problem they need to start making programs that appeal to a broader range of people and stop being so biased in their News and Current Affairs output. I think plans to decriminalise the licence fee will be announced in the next few months. It's hard to argue agaist when it is not a criminals offence to not pay your utility bill. If the new DG has any sense he will try and find a compromise with the government, Tony Hall's idea of a compromise was a new tax to replace the licence fee that's not a compromise and is never going to happen. If the new DG can meet the government halfway over the free licences for over 75's he may well take the heat about of the anti BBC movement. Kinda hoping he screws up and digs his heels in. He didn't move any jobs out of london, he just replicated the london jobs up north, and had two teams doing the work that one used to do. It wasted huge amounts of licencepayers money. It was a political decision, and a big waste of time and effort to achieve nothing. Smoke and mirrors.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 01 Sep 20 11.19am |
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Originally posted by ghosteagle
He didn't move any jobs out of london, he just replicated the london jobs up north, and had two teams doing the work that one used to do. It wasted huge amounts of licencepayers money. It was a political decision, and a big waste of time and effort to achieve nothing. Smoke and mirrors. What I found rather odd with Tony Hall is that just before he left he made some major decisions impacting hundreds of jobs. He knew he was going and normally an outgoing manager would leave those big decisions to the new guy. I wonder what the new DG feels about this if he disagrees with any of the recent decisions he either has to live with them or reverse them in which case the media will be all over him "BBC climbdown". I don't think Tony Hall has done him any favours.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Sep 20 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Hopefully the new DG will recognise that the BBC has to serve the whole of the country and not just the London left wing elite. Tony Hall's great idea was to move more jobs out of London. That doesn't solve the problem they need to start making programs that appeal to a broader range of people and stop being so biased in their News and Current Affairs output. I think plans to decriminalise the licence fee will be announced in the next few months. It's hard to argue agaist when it is not a criminals offence to not pay your utility bill. If the new DG has any sense he will try and find a compromise with the government, Tony Hall's idea of a compromise was a new tax to replace the licence fee that's not a compromise and is never going to happen. If the new DG can meet the government halfway over the free licences for over 75's he may well take the heat about of the anti BBC movement. Kinda hoping he screws up and digs his heels in. Tony Hall has been a disaster in a long running series of disasters. I lost interest in the BBC a few years back. I don't believe reform is possible as its staff are mostly dyed in the wool idealogs. There are some valuable radio elements that should be protected but I'm more than ready for the BBC to die now as a enforced public subscription. As for the new DG....here is a cut and paste from the website 'conservative women'. 'It seems that Tim Davie is as wedded to the licence fee as Tony Hall. As for Sir Robbie? He made it clear in the press coverage of his new television service that one person who won’t be involved is Nigel Farage. That sounds like his BBC instincts – and prejudice – are still very much in place. Disturbingly, too, at the weekend he also maintained that BBC coverage of the EU referendum was balanced. It most certainly was not, as this report by News-watch conclusively shows [Link] The problem remains that those who have been inside the BBC ‘bubble’ can rarely see outside it.' Just another institution the left used to divide and make political and hence they have destroyed it.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 01 Sep 20 2.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Tony Hall has been a disaster in a long running series of disasters. I lost interest in the BBC a few years back. I don't believe reform is possible as its staff are mostly dyed in the wool idealogs. There are some valuable radio elements that should be protected but I'm more than ready for the BBC to die now as a enforced public subscription. As for the new DG....here is a cut and paste from the website 'conservative women'. 'It seems that Tim Davie is as wedded to the licence fee as Tony Hall. As for Sir Robbie? He made it clear in the press coverage of his new television service that one person who won’t be involved is Nigel Farage. That sounds like his BBC instincts – and prejudice – are still very much in place. Disturbingly, too, at the weekend he also maintained that BBC coverage of the EU referendum was balanced. It most certainly was not, as this report by News-watch conclusively shows [Link] The problem remains that those who have been inside the BBC ‘bubble’ can rarely see outside it.' Just another institution the left used to divide and make political and hence they have destroyed it.
That is my suspicion that he is just another one of the metropolitan elite. Still it's only fair to give him a chance.
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| ghosteagle 01 Sep 20 2.49pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Tony Hall has been a disaster in a long running series of disasters. I lost interest in the BBC a few years back. I don't believe reform is possible as its staff are mostly dyed in the wool idealogs. There are some valuable radio elements that should be protected but I'm more than ready for the BBC to die now as a enforced public subscription. As for the new DG....here is a cut and paste from the website 'conservative women'. 'It seems that Tim Davie is as wedded to the licence fee as Tony Hall. As for Sir Robbie? He made it clear in the press coverage of his new television service that one person who won’t be involved is Nigel Farage. That sounds like his BBC instincts – and prejudice – are still very much in place. Disturbingly, too, at the weekend he also maintained that BBC coverage of the EU referendum was balanced. It most certainly was not, as this report by News-watch conclusively shows [Link] The problem remains that those who have been inside the BBC ‘bubble’ can rarely see outside it.' Just another institution the left used to divide and make political and hence they have destroyed it.
The funny thing is that the left are always complaining about how right-wing the bbc is. Under fire from both sides, it does seem to have shot itself in the foot.
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