No, it’s simply that they have a different viewpoint to yours and it makes them no more or no less a fan than you, so give it a rest with the histrionics and stick with the subject matter. If you don’t like what’s on the Roy out thread, just post on the Roy in thread.

So more nonsense. You've made it your life's obsession to cvnt Roy off but didn't even know he wasn't responsible for recruitment.

Let's not reinvent history.
Roy was instrumental in Cahill joining, stated that he had been after Mcarthy for years and also said he had checked out Sorloth with his Scandinavian contacts and was happy with what he had heard.
He also capped Butland and Clyne for England and seemed on board with those signings.
In saying this, I acknowledge he's not solely responsible for player recruitment any more than other managers are at many clubs.
In fairness to Roy, he has not sought complain about squad weakness and has recently referred to it's strength.
He said how difficult it has been to leave established players out of matchday squads, and has also said he's unsure of the need to buy in January as it would just be 'piling bodies upon bodies.'

I see no point making a change at this stage,but hope he leaves at the end of the season.

Ha ha that's like wining and dining a bird, showing her compliments and getting her gagging then f***ing her off in a cab. Brilliant

Ok - but I did question how you knew Roy “ melted into the background “ at half time and then you wrote that he was claiming the credit for allowing Ray to say his piece.

I accept they were your personal experiences and differ from mine - I too was fortunate enough to play and coach at a semi pro level. It won’t surprise you to know I had my say regarding in match performance and indeed it was expected.

Neither of our experiences are relevant to what happens in the professional game. Which is why I posted the piece on Wenger and Keown. I hope that gives some perspective now to the Ray Lew situation.

Having read your other posts, I am in full agreement with you in one thing at least - we both want the best for the club we love !

Happy New Year to you - Up The Palace !

Old, Ungifted and White

For every Potter there’s a Brendan Rodgers or Ralph Hasenhuthll.
To replace a staid manager with a progressive manager is not doomed to failure.
There’s a danger of being trapped into a mindset where we can only survive if we appoint a certain type of manager - Pulis, Allardyce, Pardew, Hodgson.
Where next - Pearson or Bruce?
The managers we’ve had have done sound jobs, but eventually we’ll run out of this type of candidate as there’s only a finite amount around still working!
To write off any change of approach ever because of the short lived experiment with DeBoer seems a tad over the top.