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jeeagles Flag 29 Dec 20 3.40pm

Originally posted by Willo
At the 'Ripe' age of 73, Roy Hodgson works tirelessly for the club in all weathers.

He has been in management for some 44 years, managing both internationally and some big clubs, with often not much time between jobs and one does not have such a CV if one does not know one's 'Onions'. He is very much respected globally.

He's a relic of a bygone age when English sport was controlled by cronies. They constantly employed from within their own clique leading to failure after failure. A time where we under performed at every level and no one could work out how the powers that be achieved or maintained their executive positions.

On recent performance, he just seems to slump in his comfortable chair occationally huffing and puffing like an old drunk at a exclusive members club.

The only reason he's respected is because he's shown the old boys club how to build a long profitable career with no talent or personality.

The description you gave is how many in the Labour Party describe Jeremy Corbyn, just a couple of years younger... we're basically managed by football's equivalent of Corbyn. Useless, but he's been around a while, speaks relatively politely and is protected by blind followers who can see no wrong.

 

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View Nubes's Profile Nubes Flag London 29 Dec 20 3.41pm Send a Private Message to Nubes Add Nubes as a friend

I don’t understand the ‘jumping on’ and making a big deal and shining a light on Ray giving the players a rocket!

A lot of nonsense to fit people’s agenda!

If Roy has been here for example for 3 seasons, there will be times when Ray would give a rollicking to the players, that’s natural for any assistant (dependent upon their nature) and relationship with the manager.

That’s at all levels across industries, assistants and deputies will step in and take the floor so it’s not always one voice at the top re-enforcing a lost message.

Too many agendas and short sighted over emotional posts are too frequently written with little thought or reflection.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 29 Dec 20 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

A key part of the manager and coaches job now is motivating the players of today.
I remember going to a function years ago with Alan Smith as the speaker, whilst he was still manager. He was very open and said motivating players, who were all on more money than him was difficult. He sighted the example of Paul Mortimer, who we bought from Villa to fill Salkos position after he left. He said he just wasnt interested in playing, turned up for training but put little effort in, when challenged about his attitude, he said just wanted to see his contract out, then he would be set for life as a millionaire. He never played for the first team again with occasional reserve game.
This I think could be the reason why Roy sticks with certain players, he knows they are going to give him 100% and have the right attitude. With the money players are on in todays game, once they sign that big money contract, its only the start of getting them to play for the team.
So people saying Roy isnt getting the best out of the players, maybe right ormaye wrong, I doubt Parish is going to take the gamble, whilst we are midtable.

 

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Originally posted by Nubes

I don’t understand the ‘jumping on’ and making a big deal and shining a light on Ray giving the players a rocket!

A lot of nonsense to fit people’s agenda!

If Roy has been here for example for 3 seasons, there will be times when Ray would give a rollicking to the players, that’s natural for any assistant (dependent upon their nature) and relationship with the manager.

That’s at all levels across industries, assistants and deputies will step in and take the floor so it’s not always one voice at the top re-enforcing a lost message.

Too many agendas and short sighted over emotional posts are too frequently written with little thought or reflection.

Class post. Sense and reason.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 29 Dec 20 3.54pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

So that is the limit of your expectations/aspirations is it - survival..!!

Beyond that we/Roy is on a downward curve 2020 stats;
P34, W9, D8, L17 GD - 24 - stats don't lie.

Recent performances suggest Roy seems incapable of arresting that slide and if it is not arrested now, irrespective of our current perceived position of comfort I fear big trouble ahead and the potential of relegation come May looms large.

Football is a results driven business, there is no room for sentiment - harsh I know but true.

COYP

So, provide to me examples of the previous situations we've had with Mr Hodgson where he has suggested to you that he hasn't a clue about keeping us out of a relegation fight, I cannot wait

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Dec 20 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

He's a relic of a bygone age when English sport was controlled by cronies. They constantly employed from within their own clique leading to failure after failure. A time where we under performed at every level and no one could work out how the powers that be achieved or maintained their executive positions.

On recent performance, he just seems to slump in his comfortable chair occationally huffing and puffing like an old drunk at a exclusive members club.

The only reason he's respected is because he's shown the old boys club how to build a long profitable career with no talent or personality.

The description you gave is how many in the Labour Party describe Jeremy Corbyn, just a couple of years younger... we're basically managed by football's equivalent of Corbyn. Useless, but he's been around a while, speaks relatively politely and is protected by blind followers who can see no wrong.

With the greatest of respect I am in total disagreement with some of the arguments that have been advanced to discredit Roy Hodgson.

There is disaccord between ourselves on this matter.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 29 Dec 20 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

He's a relic of a bygone age when English sport was controlled by cronies. They constantly employed from within their own clique leading to failure after failure. A time where we under performed at every level and no one could work out how the powers that be achieved or maintained their executive positions.

On recent performance, he just seems to slump in his comfortable chair occationally huffing and puffing like an old drunk at a exclusive members club.

The only reason he's respected is because he's shown the old boys club how to build a long profitable career with no talent or personality.

The description you gave is how many in the Labour Party describe Jeremy Corbyn, just a couple of years younger... we're basically managed by football's equivalent of Corbyn. Useless, but he's been around a while, speaks relatively politely and is protected by blind followers who can see no wrong.

..he is doing the job that he was brought in to do with the poor squad at his disposal, shame as you appear quite bright

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Dec 20 4.09pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

So, provide to me examples of the previous situations we've had with Mr Hodgson where he has suggested to you that he hasn't a clue about keeping us out of a relegation fight, I cannot wait

TP, Q?

Why do you always insist on posting 'Mr Hodgson' & not Roy or RH, like everybody else on here? Your posting style is very similar to other *ahem* posters very similar to yours.

Some of what you post,imo, is true, most of it, like others is made up bollux & a total love-in FOR Roy/RH.

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 29 Dec 20 4.36pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

TP, Q?

Why do you always insist on posting 'Mr Hodgson' & not Roy or RH, like everybody else on here? Your posting style is very similar to other *ahem* posters very similar to yours.

Some of what you post,imo, is true, most of it, like others is made up bollux & a total love-in FOR Roy/RH.

Show me my bollux post then! ..please do.

 

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View Plaistow Eagle's Profile Plaistow Eagle Flag 29 Dec 20 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

So, provide to me examples of the previous situations we've had with Mr Hodgson where he has suggested to you that he hasn't a clue about keeping us out of a relegation fight, I cannot wait

Err aggregate deficit of 11-1 over the last 3 games..!!

Within that conceding 7 at Home and 2 against 10 men.

A total of 20 mins approaching anything what could be considered a competitive/acceptable performance out of a total of 270 mins played.

But that's my opinion and I respect others for theirs whereas you seem to feel the need to immediately make it personal and confrontational.

Notice nothing heard from "your Mate" Wisbech Eagle lately who remarkably also comes from Cornwall and even more remarkably has a posting style very similar to your own, including the Mr Hodgson references.

Odd that ain't it..!!

COYP

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Dec 20 4.46pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Show me my bollux post then! ..please do.

Did i referance one particular post?

No, i didnt i merely suggested most are bollux. Get ya facts right before digging other posters out to suit your own biased agenda.

Comprende?

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 29 Dec 20 4.48pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

So now I'm waiting for two posters ..one to inform me of how awful our manager has performed in keeping our poor squad away from the relegation places since he arrived and another who feels my views about our manager results in me writing bollux, I need to see proof about my bollux and proof about our battles in the relegation places .........come on

 

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