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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 21 10.03am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rainforest

"It is unbelievable. They are getting away with it," said Brighton defender Joel Veltman. "It feels like a robbery of our points".

Even the pundits were shocked that we won. They had countless attacks and shots at our goal compared to ours' 4 at theirs. Frankly, I would have accepted a point when Brighton equalised at the 55 mins. Thanks to Benteke's sucker punch.

They had countless attacks but Guaita was not diving all over the place making save after save thanks to those in front who showed tremendous determination and grit.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 23 Feb 21 10.05am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Your right Eddie, their Dutch wing back had Mitchell on toast in the first half, but in the second he got closer to him but wasnít close enough for the equaliser

Brightonís play in the second half seem to be coming down the left , Joe Wards side of the pitch.

Our full backs get sucked into the centre which is a common fault the way we play narrow and drift from side to side, often leaving space at the far post. Veltman was completely unmarked when he received the ball and Mitchell was by the penalty spot although you could argue our left midfield should have tracked Veltmans run.

They changed their set up half time and I donít think we adapted well to it hence why we were under the cosh for so long.

 

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View The Heath Eagle's Profile The Heath Eagle Flag Thornton Heath 23 Feb 21 10.18am Send a Private Message to The Heath Eagle Add The Heath Eagle as a friend

I think Roy will go with his head held high at the end of the season this being his last manager's job with the club he loves.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 23 Feb 21 10.23am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

The club can not keep relying on performances like last nights. But itís not valid to say what Palace do is lucky. Itís based on very hard work carried out around keeping very good shape, and they have pulled it off time and again. Thatís not luck.
Brighton think they were unlucky. Well two games ,in which they dominated the ball. Yet they donít dominate Palace, because in 180 plus minutes , Palace, 3 Brighton 2..
Regardless, it still rankles with me , that we donít possess a real ball winner in midfield. Last night showed again how weak in any tackle our mid fielders are ,waving a foot is not a tackle. And even when the ball came free their retention of it was pathetic at times.
Until this changes we will not be a team that sets up good attacking situations far more often than is the case in so many of our games.
Change manager or not , if real change is to come , the squad needs a lot of work in defence but in particular in qualities possessed in mid field, without that its never going to be easy for any out and out forward player to get into games more.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Kent 23 Feb 21 10.23am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by fish mitten

I am exceptionally grateful for what Roy has achieved in his time with us and on a horrible shoestring budget, and I see him as our second best manager in my time supporting the club (nearly 50 years).

I would like to see him retire with his head held high and the club in a good solid position. However, something feels like we have to hit the reset button, even if it means going down. The football we play has become so turgid and so many players are near the end of being able to play at this level. If we think we can extract another season like this and last with Roy at the helm and virtually no investment we could well become the next Sunderland or Stoke, where it all caught up with a ageing squad.

The board needs to acknowledge it needs a major investment this summer and that's the time to try and change the playing style and probably manager. I don't think we'll get away with another season of the same, renewing a few contracts and replacing others with freebies.

If we beat Fulham, I would part like to see it be announced that Roy is retiring at the end of the season and his replacement will be ?.

Originally posted by taylors lovechild


It was not a tactical masterclass, but I think it probably was the only way we were going to win last night with our horrific injury list. Very different to the 1-1 draw earlier in the season where we had the personnel to do more.

Tekkers put it perfectly when he said after the game that the players knew they needed to be solid defensively, even though it was a tough watch. The way we were overrun in the last two games I do think for once that Roy was fully justified in setting up the way he did. Also despite 25 shots on goal how many clear sights did Brighton actually create? It's not like they hit the woodwork or fluffed sitters. The players almost literally built a 90-minute wall. Roy also made the decision to play Andros down the left and Ayew down the right (he obviously read my team suggestion pre-match) which produced both goals. He picked Mateta which was vindicated, and brought Tekkers on to get the winner.

Last night was all about the result at this stage of the season, and the fact it was Brighton, but it doesn't really gloss over the fact that we have been awful to watch for the best part of two years and this season some might say we have had a large helping of good fortune. Roy can say stats don't win games, which is true, but it would be nice for once to have a happy ending without feeling like it's been achieved with sandpaper.

Think these are both very good posts.

Maybe not a tactical masterclass, but I was content with how we set up yesterday I think it was the correct decision from RH, was excruciating to watch for 99% of the game but at least we shortened our odds of conceding, I was dreading them hitting 5+ if we saw the Leeds/Burnley set up. Of course in this circumstance you pray that not only does that work but then you might get lucky down the other end and we most certainly did so the best possible result from those circumstances. I'll reiterate it's awful to watch and I cannot view it as being sustainable, especially with this squad of players, but probably correct for that game. The image of squeezing the last few drops out of the toothpaste tube comes to mind.

No matter if Roy stays, a more 'progressive' manager, a pragmatic manager of the same mould or someone in the grey of the extremes comes in, I fail to see how we can feel optimistic without what was referred to as a 'reset'. We need wingers, central midfielders, centre backs and can do with wing backs options also.

With fans potentially back next season, football might turn back to some normality of which we haven't seen this season and I'm fearful for our squad without considerable reinforcement/changes. Our season actually looks pretty good on paper but it certainly doesn't or hasn't felt like that.

 


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View nectoneagle's Profile nectoneagle Flag necton 23 Feb 21 10.39am Send a Private Message to nectoneagle Add nectoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Our full backs get sucked into the centre which is a common fault the way we play narrow and drift from side to side, often leaving space at the far post. Veltman was completely unmarked when he received the ball and Mitchell was by the penalty spot although you could argue our left midfield should have tracked Veltmans run.

They changed their set up half time and I donít think we adapted well to it hence why we were under the cosh for so long.

 

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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 23 Feb 21 10.50am Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Some people get a bit carried away. You probably won't see another game like that in your lifetime.

It's hilarious that it's the weed and great that we got 3 points and we do look like we're safe but:
What are we now giant killers?

Are we going to use the same game plan for the rest of the season?

 


My dad made me a Palace fan. Never forgiven him.

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View nectoneagle's Profile nectoneagle Flag necton 23 Feb 21 10.52am Send a Private Message to nectoneagle Add nectoneagle as a friend

Agree that the result was crucial but would you honestly pay to see that every week.It was like watching a lower side in the FA cup hoping for a replay.
I understand the injuries we have have have made life difficult but most of them would not make a lot of difference apart from Wilf.Tomkins would be better in defence but he has been out for so many games in the past we should have it sorted.
Yes we may have 4 or 5 central defenders but not 1 of them are dominate.
The comments on sky last night were embarrassing , basically no ambition , we don't even give the cups a go now .
Sorry about the rant but I can not watch this anymore

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 23 Feb 21 10.59am Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

We are in a very tricky situation, especially with everyone assuming we'll move forward with a massive overhaul this summer and a change in management and therefore playing style! We'll never be able to achieve all of that in a couple of months and where is all this investment coming from anyway?!?!?

Yes there'll be some changes in the squad but not to the level expected. Unless we get Dyche over the summer, we should just stick with Roy until a suitable replacement surfaces.

Points over style, all day for me ...

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 23 Feb 21 11.00am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

Some people get a bit carried away. You probably won't see another game like that in your lifetime.

It's hilarious that it's the weed and great that we got 3 points and we do look like we're safe but:
What are we now giant killers?

Are we going to use the same game plan for the rest of the season?

This has been the gameplan for the last couple of seasons. Once the euphoria and adrenaline surge has dissipated then perhaps it will be said that we were extremely lucky. Brighton can't hit the proverbial barn door and we defended adequately enough. I can't see this as a sustainable tactic moving forward though, who wants to see thier team spend the majority of the game encamped in their own goal area? We let them have the ball and invited them onto us, so much so Hodgson seems intent on turning Eze into a DM. Will we set up the same way against Fulham?

 

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View si_1967's Profile si_1967 Flag Surrey 23 Feb 21 11.08am Send a Private Message to si_1967 Add si_1967 as a friend

Originally posted by Wilesy01


Agree with this. Loved the victory last night and am pleased for the team but the performance was flat. Too often we rely on moments of brilliance to secure points rather than from a build up of attacking play. Our midfield last night was dire and got totally overrun - a recurring theme this season that the manager isn't addressing.

The summer will be the right time to address all issues with play/personnel and I'm content for Roy to battle it out until then.

I think you are right in principle, but with McArthur for his battling qualities and Schlupp for speed at getting up the pitch we have looked a lot better in that area and they are both missed

 


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View Davepalace707's Profile Davepalace707 Flag Northumberland 23 Feb 21 11.20am Send a Private Message to Davepalace707 Add Davepalace707 as a friend

Having a day off Roy in/out and just enjoying beating Brighton in a fashion that will take them years to get over. Our bus had its best ever game and became the first bus to score twice in a Premier League match!

 


ďThey couldnít, could they?........comes to Benteke.........CHRISTIAN BENTEKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ē

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