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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 15 Nov 21 9.14pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So now Shell are possibly relocating to the uk.
Brexit not really that bad I guess!

Not bad at all if you ask the Dutch, just seen the dispatches programme on 4, get it on plus one at 9.30, one british food company, thats what they are actually called, british corner shop, has had to relocate to The Netherlands and lose 120 jobs here, employing 70-150 in Europe.The Dutch minister said they have another 600 companies from gb wanting to set up there, paying tax there, and employing locals there, worth half a billion ero, she agreed with you, saying not bad at all!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 15 Nov 21 9.23pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Not bad at all if you ask the Dutch, just seen the dispatches programme on 4, get it on plus one at 9.30, one british food company, thats what they are actually called, british corner shop, has had to relocate to The Netherlands and lose 120 jobs here, employing 70-150 in Europe.The Dutch minister said they have another 600 companies from gb wanting to set up there, paying tax there, and employing locals there, worth half a billion ero, she agreed with you, saying not bad at all!

Half a billion is small change in the bigger picture.
Iyo bojo earnt more than that on his own from covid contracts.
Anyhow wanting to set up and actually doing it are very different things.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 15 Nov 21 9.31pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Half a billion is small change in the bigger picture.
Iyo bojo earnt more than that on his own from covid contracts.
Anyhow wanting to set up and actually doing it are very different things.

Its on in 5 mins mate, half a billion, 6000 jobs and all that tax money going to europe, not bad at all mate! And Liz truss was on talking about a pittance deal with Australia, nice and easy, trading with the furthest country away, when you could spit to france!600 companies lining up mate, and thats just Holland, what about the other 27! Its a lorra lorra dosh mate, as cilla would say!

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 16 Nov 21 1.58am Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Half a billion is small change in the bigger picture.
Iyo bojo earnt more than that on his own from covid contracts.
Anyhow wanting to set up and actually doing it are very different things.

"Banks and insurers have moved almost 1tn ($1.4tn) out of Britain and shifted thousands of jobs to Europe due to Brexit, according to a "sobering" new report on the impact of leaving the EU on Britain's financial services sector."

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 16 Nov 21 5.54am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Its on in 5 mins mate, half a billion, 6000 jobs and all that tax money going to europe, not bad at all mate! And Liz truss was on talking about a pittance deal with Australia, nice and easy, trading with the furthest country away, when you could spit to france!600 companies lining up mate, and thats just Holland, what about the other 27! Its a lorra lorra dosh mate, as cilla would say!

I suggest you go back and read the report I posted a few days ago. Roughly 2 trillion gdp so it's a lot individually but a piss in a swimming pool in the bigger picture of %'s.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 16 Nov 21 5.56am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

"Banks and insurers have moved almost 1tn (.4tn) out of Britain and shifted thousands of jobs to Europe due to Brexit, according to a "sobering" new report on the impact of leaving the EU on Britain's financial services sector."

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And you are affected in what way then?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Nov 21 7.53am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

And you are affected in what way then?

My question about this report would be what are they comparing this against?

7,500 jobs lost to the EU mainly to Dublin. I lost my bank job to Dublin back in the 1990's (2000 from my company) nothing to do with Brexit. As numbers not a great deal considering the size of the Financial Services market in the UK. The number of jobs in the FS sector is likely to go down anyway due to automation.

As for assets yes it's a big number but again over the last 40 years what has happened I suspect that companies move assets around all the time because it suits them. Maybe companies have moved them in anticipation of problems with the EU they may move them back?

I think a more accurate reflection is to look at this year on year over the next 5 years. If the size of assets is smaller than today I guess you can say Brexit has had a negative impact.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 16 Nov 21 12.09pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Half a billion is small change in the bigger picture.
Iyo bojo earnt more than that on his own from covid contracts.
Anyhow wanting to set up and actually doing it are very different things.

From the guy who's initial argument was "So now Shell are possibly relocating to the uk.
Brexit not really that bad I guess!"

So does possibly count or not?

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 16 Nov 21 6.14pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

From the guy who's initial argument was "So now Shell are possibly relocating to the uk.
Brexit not really that bad I guess!"

So does possibly count or not?

They are putting it to the board which generally means its a done deal. Business talk for sorted I think.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 16 Nov 21 6.18pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

They are putting it to the board which generally means its a done deal. Business talk for sorted I think.

Its never done until its done mate, and even so, small change compared to all the business the EU are picking up!

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 16 Nov 21 6.36pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The Netherlands and Germany I don't think they were expecting this EU re-location from the UK and its actually a problem absorbing it all.

Exiting the single market, which leave said would not happen, is turning into a disaster, Northern Ireland would be daft to ditch it, they should ditch Johnson instead.

Johnson's tariff free deal is of course nothing of the kind, small and medium exporters are either giving up or re-locating.

A typical problem is the origin of components in a product, the EU were well prepared from the start, it's almost impossible to show their validity.

Its like having to show where you were fishing years ago, who can do that.

The single market, Thatcher's great free trade achievement.

Now look at it.


 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 21 11.45am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The Netherlands and Germany I don't think they were expecting this EU re-location from the UK and its actually a problem absorbing it all.

Exiting the single market, which leave said would not happen, is turning into a disaster, Northern Ireland would be daft to ditch it, they should ditch Johnson instead.

Johnson's tariff free deal is of course nothing of the kind, small and medium exporters are either giving up or re-locating.

A typical problem is the origin of components in a product, the EU were well prepared from the start, it's almost impossible to show their validity.

Its like having to show where you were fishing years ago, who can do that.

The single market, Thatcher's great free trade achievement.

Now look at it.


It was all foreseen but dismissed as "Project Fear" by those who put "independence" over the safety, security and prosperity of everyone else.

Where are all the easy-peasy trade deals that countries outside the EU were lining up to sign, the USA being first in the queue?

How long before the pain starts to bite so hard that there is such a wave of discontent that the murmurs of the need to renegotiate the trade agreement becomes a deafening demand? How long after that will it be before the terms offered by the EU result in some kind of associate membership arrangement?

How long will posters on here go on saying we must all be patient? When you have dug a hole this deep, and you are up to your neck in s***e, you aren't going to get out on your own.

Johnson is on his way out. You can see whenever a politician's time is up. He is being squeezed from all sides, and the manoeuvring to replace him is already apparent. Who replaces him will be very interesting.

By the way, the Shell "relocation" is a one off special situation unrelated to Brexit, and down to a major outside investor making demands about streamlining their structure. Only 7 jobs will actually relocate. So no comfort there for the Brexiteers.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Nov 2021 11.58am)

 

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