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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 29 Oct 21 11.51am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Good plan. Will Blair supporters pay for the Gulf War?

If you could find them.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Oct 21 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

It can't get much worse with brexit, than the governments own body the ONBR revealing the economic damage will accelerate from next year and is far more harmful than any covid.

Trade deals and freeports of little economic consequence.

With all the other financial hits mainly excluded in the budget (6bn council tax increases announced today) one wonders how the average Brit will manage.

Control of our waters not really what we envisaged you wouldn't rush to bathe in them or eat from them safely, the once prized Whitstable shell-fish industry now unsafe and relying on imports from the EU.

It's all a s**t show, but then it was always going to be.

One thing that would be justified, imo, is a 100%% brexit tax to be paid by the brexiteers only.

Let the culprits pick up the bill.


I wouldn't pin all your assumptions on the OBR. So far its predictions have been wide of the mark, I am not saying they are wrong in this case just that their track record so far has been patchy to say the least.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 29 Oct 21 1.00pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

If you could find them.

Hes an example of what Clive James called The Barry Manilow Effect. No one anyone knows admits to liking him but he became very popular.
Imagine these days old Tone would kill for Manly Barrilows numbers.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 02 Nov 21 1.29pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I was thinking, looking at Frost and his team facing the Brussels suits, who do these people think they are?

It is NI peoples future, yet they are not even represented.

Why are they treated in this way, and why do they put up with it?

Who says anyway, that their people are against the protocol, polls suggest otherwise.

They should tell us to get lost and the EU too if necessary.


 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 02 Nov 21 6.03pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I was thinking, looking at Frost and his team facing the Brussels suits, who do these people think they are?

It is NI peoples future, yet they are not even represented.

Why are they treated in this way, and why do they put up with it?

Who says anyway, that their people are against the protocol, polls suggest otherwise.

They should tell us to get lost and the EU too if necessary.


Frankly, I don't think there would be too many broken hearts in England if they did, and then bu**ered off and declared Independence....Solve a lot of problems that!

 


A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 02 Nov 21 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I was thinking, looking at Frost and his team facing the Brussels suits, who do these people think they are?

It is NI peoples future, yet they are not even represented.

Why are they treated in this way, and why do they put up with it?

Who says anyway, that their people are against the protocol, polls suggest otherwise.

They should tell us to get lost and the EU too if necessary.


I think both sides are a lot closer than they care to admit. This is really about the paperwork rather than the principle, apparently the EU has offered to scrap red tape on 80% of the imports which would pretty much solves the supermarket issues.

I fully expect that after the usual grand standing both sides will declare victory.

I don't care who gets the credit what matters is that they put in place a sensible process so that both sides can trade easily.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 03 Nov 21 12.04am

Originally posted by Badger11

I think both sides are a lot closer than they care to admit. This is really about the paperwork rather than the principle, apparently the EU has offered to scrap red tape on 80% of the imports which would pretty much solves the supermarket issues.

I fully expect that after the usual grand standing both sides will declare victory.

I don't care who gets the credit what matters is that they put in place a sensible process so that both sides can trade easily.

Yes, they should put the political willy waving aside and just get it done (for a change)!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Nov 21 1.19pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

So now Shell are possibly relocating to the uk.
Brexit not really that bad I guess!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 15 Nov 21 1.33pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So now Shell are possibly relocating to the uk.
Brexit not really that bad I guess!

More importantly than moving its HQ is that it will now pay UK tax instead of Dutch.

This may not have anything to do with Brexit and more about fossil companies protecting themselves from the political impact of climate change. Just like tobacco companies moving away from cigarettes.

Shell is now my gas and electricity supplier so diversifying into related industries maybe the way forward and their setup is currently complicated.

Anyway I wont crow Brexit nor will I wail when a UK company moves to the EU. It's business and companies will do what they think is right for them rather than the politics.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 15 Nov 21 2.20pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

More importantly than moving its HQ is that it will now pay UK tax instead of Dutch.

This may not have anything to do with Brexit and more about fossil companies protecting themselves from the political impact of climate change. Just like tobacco companies moving away from cigarettes.

Shell is now my gas and electricity supplier so diversifying into related industries maybe the way forward and their setup is currently complicated.

Anyway I wont crow Brexit nor will I wail when a UK company moves to the EU. It's business and companies will do what they think is right for them rather than the politics.

Fossil fuels and high carbon? Shell have contributed more than many to the climate emergency, their imprint especially felt among poorer nations they pollute and pillage for profit.

They are an ideal match for the present UK government.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 15 Nov 21 2.34pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Fossil fuels and high carbon? Shell have contributed more than many to the climate emergency, their imprint especially felt among poorer nations they pollute and pillage for profit.

They are an ideal match for the present UK government.

I agree about Shell but Brexit not all bad then, thought all businesses were going to leave and the sky was going to fall in.


Edited by Spiderman (15 Nov 2021 2.36pm)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 15 Nov 21 7.06pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Fossil fuels and high carbon? Shell have contributed more than many to the climate emergency, their imprint especially felt among poorer nations they pollute and pillage for profit.

They are an ideal match for the present UK government.

How's your gas boiler?

 

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