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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 17 Nov 21 10.16pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Your 1066 comment is risible but demonstrates your narcissism.

Your assertion that most posters on here would be fascists in 1936 is attempted moral superiority .

I really pity your local MP having to engage with you on a regular basis.

Drivel, pure drivel


Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Some people are still stuck in 1966.

Some here are still stuck in 1936. It wouldn't be difficult to work out which side of the barricades in Cable St people here would be on, or what colour shirt that some might be wearing.

Some here are still in 1066, seeking in vain to keep out immigrants from France. As that all worked out rather well in the end, perhaps it will again!

2016 was a very bad year. On both sides of the pond. No-one wants to be stuck there.

Edited by HKOwen (17 Nov 2021 10.17pm)

 


A lie will travel half way around the world before the truth has got it's shoes on.

When conceited septuagenarians opine , best to ignore.

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 21 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's like leftist Alf Garnett.

Alf Garnett was a just political parody, but also both loveable and thought-provoking.

If anyone can achieve the same impact, then it's all been worth their while.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 21 10.26pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Your 1066 comment is risible but demonstrates your narcissism.

Your assertion that most posters on here would be fascists in 1936 is attempted moral superiority .

I really pity your local MP having to engage with you on a regular basis.

Drivel, pure drive


Edited by HKOwen (17 Nov 2021 10.17pm)

Humour bypass?

I didn't, and don't, assert that most posters on here would be fascists. You make assumptions. Read it again. My remark was about some, in fact a very small number, but deliberately left open for people to reach their own conclusions. You walked straight in!

My MP is great. We get along just fine.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Nov 21 12.29pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Good heavens, Lord Frost, of all people, says brexit will not work.

Not because of his ruinous negotiations of course, but because of 'high taxation'.

And the tories recent budget taxes hike will add to brexit and covid woes and put any economic recovery on hold, I think most tories and business think likewise.

It looks like anything that will damage us, Johnson will do including the ridiculous saga over 30 fishing licences, as if it could possibly matter.

France assumes the EU presidency in January, and with elections due he surely must bash the UK.

I hope he will be successful, it is long overdue.


 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 24 Nov 21 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Has the worm turned

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'Government slammed after no-one applies to post-Brexit visa scheme for academics: ‘Verbal diarrhoea optimism’'


 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Good heavens, Lord Frost, of all people, says brexit will not work.

Not because of his ruinous negotiations of course, but because of 'high taxation'.

And the tories recent budget taxes hike will add to brexit and covid woes and put any economic recovery on hold, I think most tories and business think likewise.

It looks like anything that will damage us, Johnson will do including the ridiculous saga over 30 fishing licences, as if it could possibly matter.

France assumes the EU presidency in January, and with elections due he surely must bash the UK.

I hope he will be successful, it is long overdue.



Surely not Frosty? Can"t he send out an "SOS" from hms brexit, before it disappears under the water, perhaps get Jacob and nanny to the rescue?

 

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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 24 Nov 21 2.25pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

The truth of people like Frost, and the other other hard core Brexiteers like Bill Cash etc, is that they have always wanted to de-regulate, move away from the European social model and create a UK based on a similar model to Singapore.
Fortunately, they are in the minority and such an approach would certainly not be backed by the broader base of the population who really value the social underpin provided in the UK and elsewhere in Europe.
However, in one sense Frost has a point - what was Brexit actually for if we have simply left but continue to follow the European social model and have non of the benefits that came with EU membership? People are slowly waking up to this it seems and, for sure, future generations will pay a heavy price.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Nov 21 2.26pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Good heavens, Lord Frost, of all people, says brexit will not work.

Not because of his ruinous negotiations of course, but because of 'high taxation'.

And the tories recent budget taxes hike will add to brexit and covid woes and put any economic recovery on hold, I think most tories and business think likewise.

It looks like anything that will damage us, Johnson will do including the ridiculous saga over 30 fishing licences, as if it could possibly matter.

France assumes the EU presidency in January, and with elections due he surely must bash the UK.

I hope he will be successful, it is long overdue.


That bit I agree with you. Macron is going to use France's Presidency of the EU to bash the UK as much as he can to help with domestic elections.

The question is will the rest of the EU go along with that or would they prefer to settle it this year before he takes charge. I would have thought that the EU has plenty on it's plate both internationally and domestically to allow this to drag on. It can be resolved easily by just agreeing to a trusted trader scheme where the EU does the occasional spot checks.

For those who think the EU holds all the cards I would point out that they need the UK military in Poland and to deal with the Soviet threat in the Ukraine. Is this the time to start playing games when there is a vary serious threat on it's borders?

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 24 Nov 21 2.59pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Government slammed after no-one applies to post-Brexit visa scheme for academics: ‘Verbal diarrhoea optimism’'


Do you mean this from the Guardian, no-one in the first 6 months, possibly the pandemic? Who knows

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Edited by Spiderman (24 Nov 2021 3.02pm)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 Nov 21 3.29pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Government slammed after no-one applies to post-Brexit visa scheme for academics: ‘Verbal diarrhoea optimism’'


I can't say I am surprised the brightest and the best will always be in demand globally so offering them a visa isn't much of an incentive. People move because they are offered an attractive job that is the driver if a big corporation wanted a top scientist they would make it happen the visa would be the least of the worries.

Now having said that I do agree with the principle that we need to attract the best and the brightest rather than those who can push their way into this country.

So as my teacher always told me "Most try harder".

 


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